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To: FtrPilot; PIF; BeauBo; blitz128; Magnum44

And now we know.

“Well, there’s the final confirmation. Unless they had the guts to put a patriot radar close to the border (unlikely considering it would have popped up on Russian RWR’s), this pretty much confirms that Ukrainian PAC-2 is acquiring targets across link16 datalink. Exciting stuff.”

“Russian Air Force affiliated channel Fighterbomber reports that all helicopters and fighter jets downed on May 13 were shot down by a Ukrainian Patriot air defense system and 11 pilots died. That day Russia lost a Su-34, Su-35 & two Mi-8s in Russia’s Bryansk region.“

https://twitter.com/ArchieIrving2/status/1661348544337551360

“Haven’t seen much discussion about whether the Patriot system may have been responsible for the recent Russian aircraft losses, so here is my take. This looks to me like a possible use case for PAC-2 from well within Ukrainian territory using link16. ”

https://twitter.com/ArchieIrving2/status/1658116284444295170


2 posted on 05/24/2023 6:48:50 AM PDT by SpeedyInTexas (RuZZia is the enemy of all mankind)
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To: PIF

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3 posted on 05/24/2023 6:49:02 AM PDT by SpeedyInTexas (RuZZia is the enemy of all mankind)
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To: SpeedyInTexas

Ukrainian PAC-2

Except, according to earlier reports, Ukraine received the PAC-3 latest variant, not the PAC-2.


26 posted on 05/24/2023 7:14:58 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: SpeedyInTexas

Archie seems to show that Ukraine forces are fighting Russians along the coast near Mariupol - he dates that map from May 3, 2023, not 2022

I wouldn’t rely on his accuracy about anything. My opinion.


30 posted on 05/24/2023 7:20:49 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: SpeedyInTexas; PIF; BeauBo; blitz128; Magnum44; buwaya
...This looks to me like a possible use case for PAC-2 from well within Ukrainian territory using link16.

Initially, UKR denied they shot the RU aircraft & helicopters down.

This is a very interesting concept, if true.

My guess would be a NASAMs radar was deployed near the UKR/RU border. A Patriot launcher would also be deployed near the UKR/RU border.

The NASAMs radar would then acquire the target(s), launch a PAC-2 missile (the Aim-120 would not have the legs) and provide mid-course guidance through link16.

At some point, the PAC-2 missile acquires, locks on to then kills the target.

This could also explain the Black Sea shoot down.

Send more Patriot launchers.

41 posted on 05/24/2023 8:44:08 AM PDT by FtrPilot
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