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Pentagon Seeks Ways To Buy Munitions For Conflict With China Under Defense Budget
The Free Press-Tampa ^ | 03/13/2023 | Micaela Burrow

Posted on 03/13/2023 3:11:54 PM PDT by Conservativetpa

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To: Yo-Yo

Apparently they have not heard of Amazon Prime. The munitions might not be the best quality having been manufactured in China, but they can get free shipping.


21 posted on 03/13/2023 3:38:55 PM PDT by webheart
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To: Conservativetpa

As if ammo wasn’t expensive enough already.


22 posted on 03/13/2023 3:42:03 PM PDT by dblshot
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To: cuz1961
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23 posted on 03/13/2023 3:43:21 PM PDT by cuz1961 (USCGR Veteran )
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24 posted on 03/13/2023 3:46:57 PM PDT by cuz1961 (USCGR Veteran )
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To: Yo-Yo

Surprise. Ukraine taught the Pentagon that they need to stockpile enough weapons for a protracted war,
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Correction, Vlad taught the Pentagon a lesson. The US dropped Artillery from doctrine for aircraft decades ago. A quick look at WW2 divisional artillery organizational charts show 4-6 battalions of divisional artillery. Huge.

To late for rethinking their tactics, North Korea, China, Russia has insanely huge
amounts of artillery. Do remember what Patton said when asked what won the war : “ Artillery “.

Vlad is holding all the cards. I imagine quite a panic has engulfed the Pentagon realizing their decades old doctrine worked fine against third rate Islamic countries, NOT going to work against Russia or China.


25 posted on 03/13/2023 3:47:04 PM PDT by delta7
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To: dragnet2

“ How stupid are they?”

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Extremely stupid, because they bought in to a scheme that is demonic and of course anti-American.


26 posted on 03/13/2023 3:47:53 PM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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27 posted on 03/13/2023 3:52:44 PM PDT by cuz1961 (USCGR Veteran )
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To: jacknhoo

Let me get this straight, they control everything we do, they call all the shots, they can put you in a cage on any whim, they spy, lie and steal as a matter of routine, but they’re the, “Extremely stupid” ones?

What’s that make us?


28 posted on 03/13/2023 3:52:46 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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29 posted on 03/13/2023 3:57:42 PM PDT by cuz1961 (USCGR Veteran )
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To: Conservativetpa

Trade heroin contracts for ammo already over there. Duh?!


30 posted on 03/13/2023 3:59:17 PM PDT by Delta 21 (MAGA Republican is my pronoun.)
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To: cuz1961

None of these things is particularly useful in the case of either Ukraine or China.

Ok, those 155 MRAPs are effective at resisting artillery near-misses and have proven useful in Ukraine, especially in driving along roads under artillery fire. But the US has thousands in storage, so its de minimis.

The artillery (176 pieces) is also likely to have been useful in Ukraine. But these are, IIRC, mainly ex-Soviet models or 105mm light guns.


31 posted on 03/13/2023 4:00:29 PM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: Conservativetpa

Why do these idiots now want a war with China, they supply a majority of our stuff.

Our munitions plants where torn down in the 60’s and 70’s. I grew up next to a former one in rural Wisconsin. We don’t have capacity for a major war. We didn’t mothball them just in case. Russia did exactly that, now they work again.

The stupid doesn’t stop,


32 posted on 03/13/2023 4:02:49 PM PDT by foundedonpurpose (Praise Hashem, for his restoration of all things! It's )
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33 posted on 03/13/2023 4:04:01 PM PDT by cuz1961 (USCGR Veteran )
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To: cuz1961

Hey Brandon, if it’s good enough for the Taliban, it should be good enough for Muricans.

So Brandon arms the Taliban while seeking to disarm law abiding Americans.


34 posted on 03/13/2023 4:04:21 PM PDT by Perseverando (Antifa, BLM, RINOs, Islamonazis, Marxists, Commucrats, DemoKKKrats: It's a Godlessness disorder!)
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To: Conservativetpa

The article mischaracterizes what the US needs in a war with China.
This is a critical point.
A war with China will be an Air and Naval conflict. A large scale land war with the US army deployed in force for continental operations is highly unlikely.

The principal ammo shortfall are in Air Force and Navy long range missiles - Navy Tomahawk TLAM and anti-ship variants for instance, or the Air Force LRASM https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AGM-158C_LRASM


35 posted on 03/13/2023 4:06:32 PM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: foundedonpurpose
Amazing isn't it ? Fo-Bk7i-QX0-AESja-C OmUo4sV .
36 posted on 03/13/2023 4:07:25 PM PDT by cuz1961 (USCGR Veteran )
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To: dblshot

Very modern ammo relevant to the sort of war the US will be fighting with China - that stuff is extremely expensive indeed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AGM-158C_LRASM

$3-4 million a shot.


37 posted on 03/13/2023 4:08:33 PM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: foundedonpurpose

No 1960’s ammo plant can make this -

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AGM-158C_LRASM

There is no great capacity to make actual modern weapons, but thats not because old artillery shell forging shops were closed. Its that the mfg capacity for new things was not made.


38 posted on 03/13/2023 4:11:36 PM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: dragnet2
What’s that make us?

Deceived.

Most of our public figures are indeed quite stupid. They are also merely puppets. They do what they are told to do and say what they are told to say. It is an easy gig and pays well.

The people who are calling the shots are EVIL and very, very intelligent. They are masters of deception. They are usually deep in the background and most people in the general public have never heard their names.

Their biggest weakness is that they hate each other as much as they hate us. Factional conflicts within the inner circles occasionally rip the masks off of their deceptions and may weaken them for a critical moment. They cannot survive very long while they are exposed to public view.

We will need to seize the moments when they come up.

39 posted on 03/13/2023 4:12:55 PM PDT by flamberge (Everybody is gonna hate it when we all play by the same rules.)
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To: buwaya

Milley admitted to mounting on national tv, Matt is gave 83 billion away, China’s navy is building Soros as fast as they can, don’t be so sure it won’t go kenetic on Our soil starting in the Pacific Islands and working it’s way to the west coast.

Our sub commanders now run into underwater sea mounts, and our navy collides with other ships on fair weather and broad daylight and can’t put a stop fire while at doc, the Patriots have been vac purged, the remains are vac poisoned and or have bandaged genitals.

The air force had to fire more than once to down a dang balloon.

I’m not reassured.


40 posted on 03/13/2023 4:13:24 PM PDT by cuz1961 (USCGR Veteran )
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