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Hubris Kills Diplomacy: A review of U.S.-Russia relations as the war in Ukraine continues.
AGON Mag ^ | February 9th, 2023 | Claes G. Ryn

Posted on 02/28/2023 1:43:47 PM PST by Ultra Sonic 007

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About the Author: Claes G. Ryn is Emeritus Professor of Politics, Distinguished Senior Scholar, and Founding Director Emeritus of the Center for the Study of Statesmanship at the Catholic University of America, where he was also Chairman of his department. He was President of the Philadelphia Society, Chairman and co-founder of the National Humanities Institute, and President and co-founder of the Academy of Philosophy and Letters.
1 posted on 02/28/2023 1:43:47 PM PST by Ultra Sonic 007
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

Here’s some more on Claes G. Ryn:

Influence in China
In 2000 he gave the Distinguished Foreign Scholar Lectures at Beijing University, which also published this lecture series in Chinese translation as a book, Unity Through Diversity (2001). He has lectured and published widely in China. In 2007 he gave a keynote address at the Chinese Academy of Social Science in Beijing. The Chinese edition (2007) of his book America the Virtuous became one of the most hotly discussed in China. Dushu, “probably China’s leading intellectual journal of the past decade”,[8] described it as “the kind of classical work that will be read over the generations.”[citation needed] Three of his books and many of his articles have appeared in Chinese translation in China.

In 2012 Beijing Normal University named Ryn Honorary Professor.[9]


2 posted on 02/28/2023 1:46:37 PM PST by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

Claes G. Ryn is a Never Trumper:

https://nationalinterest.org/feature/donald-j-trump-and-%E2%80%98america-first%E2%80%99-fairy-tale-114621

“Donald J. Trump and the ‘America First’ Fairy Tale”


3 posted on 02/28/2023 1:49:27 PM PST by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: MeganC

https://hypestat.com/info/agonmag.com

Where are Agonmag.com servers located in?
• Agonmag.com has servers located in San Francisco, California, 94110, United States.

Server Location:
San Francisco
California, CA
94110
United States, US


4 posted on 02/28/2023 1:55:02 PM PST by familyop ("For they that sleep with dogs, shall rise with fleas" (John Webster, "The White Devil" 1612).)
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To: MeganC

https://twitter.com/emeriticus/status/1623714701388533761?s=20
Pedro L. Gonzalez
@emeriticus
I am happy to announce the launch of
@AGON_Mag
, a new publication that will feature essays from Douglas Macgregor, Michael Vlahos, Emily Finley, Claes Ryn, Guillaume Travers, David Polansky, and many other leading lights.
agonmag.com
A Radical New Magazine to Challenge the Status Quo


5 posted on 02/28/2023 1:57:54 PM PST by familyop ("For they that sleep with dogs, shall rise with fleas" (John Webster, "The White Devil" 1612).)
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To: MeganC

https://twitter.com/emeriticus/status/1623715997633978370?s=20
Pedro L. Gonzalez
@emeriticus
If you are not familiar with Macgregor by now you should be. He is one of the only sane people thinking about foreign policy and he has accurately skewered the Washington consensus on Russia and Ukraine.


6 posted on 02/28/2023 1:58:33 PM PST by familyop ("For they that sleep with dogs, shall rise with fleas" (John Webster, "The White Devil" 1612).)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007
The Russian dictators do like to project their own characteristics on nations that they intend to start wars with in the future.

2 definitions found for hubris
From WordNet (r) 3.0 (2006) : 

  hubris
      n 1: overbearing pride or presumption



7 posted on 02/28/2023 2:05:19 PM PST by familyop ("For they that sleep with dogs, shall rise with fleas" (John Webster, "The White Devil" 1612).)
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To: MeganC

And that’s not an argument.

Also, the article you cited is Ryn expressing disappointment in Trump going against his campaign promises regarding foreign interventions by increasing the involvement of hawks like Bolton and Pompeo in his administration. How is that “Never Trumper”?


8 posted on 02/28/2023 2:08:54 PM PST by Ultra Sonic 007 (There is nothing new under the sun.)
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To: familyop

Within 6 minutes of the post she ( assumption) went after the author.
I don’t think you’ll get much discussion there!

A veritable word salad of an article. But Some interesting points.


9 posted on 02/28/2023 2:10:23 PM PST by silverleaf (“Freedom ultimately means the right of other people to do things that you disagree with”. T. Sowell)
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To: familyop

The fact that a website’s servers are located in San Francisco means “what”, exactly?

That Pedro Gonzales (a commentator whose opinions I’m very sympathetic to, for what it’s worth) apparently thinks highly of Claes Ryn means “what”, exactly?


10 posted on 02/28/2023 2:12:27 PM PST by Ultra Sonic 007 (There is nothing new under the sun.)
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To: familyop

Americans never do that…right

I mean, assume that others think as we do and should make the same choices as we do because we are…exceptional
And they are, otherwise, bad


11 posted on 02/28/2023 2:14:33 PM PST by silverleaf (“Freedom ultimately means the right of other people to do things that you disagree with”. T. Sowell)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

Look at all the crap this country is done to the worst of the world since President Obama, Bush was bad enough but when President Obama got in it was like let loose the deep state in the dogs of war, I mean it’s something right out of the Book of Revelations, The Great Deceiver ushering in the end of the world and the death of all mankind.


12 posted on 02/28/2023 2:45:19 PM PST by dila813
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To: Ultra Sonic 007
This is but one example among many since the end of World War II of the Washington establishment routinely and flagrantly violating the U.S. Constitution by initiating or participating in undeclared wars.

This should be held up as the defining critique of U.S. foreign policy in my lifetime.

13 posted on 02/28/2023 2:45:48 PM PST by Alberta's Child
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Trump: Biden 'Systematically' Pushing US Into World War III

Trump: Biden is Pushing us into World War III – Here’s How I’d Stop It

President Trump: “World War III Has Never Been Closer Than It Is Right Now."

;^)

14 posted on 02/28/2023 2:50:13 PM PST by Who is John Galt? ("...mit Pulver und Blei, Die Gedanken sind frei!")
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

There are some who find it necessary to demonize and personally tear apart an author who espouses ideas that don’t jive with their own views.


15 posted on 02/28/2023 2:50:39 PM PST by dforest (All of America has derailed.)
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Parts of Europe are shivering this winter because of high energy prices or shortages.

Pffft. I just came after three months in January. No one is freezing except maybe the Brits, but that's due to their lunatic Green policies.

16 posted on 02/28/2023 3:01:02 PM PST by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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This assertion:

As Russia struggled, American leaders, most prominently President Bill Clinton, moved, though not without opposition, to add the countries in Europe previously under USSR’s control to NATO.

is simply false. The Eastern Europeans clamored to get into NATO and the US and Western Europe dragged their feet, and even after they were admitted, did not create any new military bases and did not sell a bunch of new Western hardware to the new members.

17 posted on 02/28/2023 3:03:46 PM PST by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: pierrem15
Ryn's characterization — "As Russia struggled, American leaders, most prominently President Bill Clinton, moved, though not without opposition, to add the countries in Europe previously under USSR’s control to NATO." — and yours — "The Eastern Europeans clamored to get into NATO and the US and Western Europe dragged their feet, and even after they were admitted, did not create any new military bases and did not sell a bunch of new Western hardware to the new members." — are not mutually exclusive, much less contradictory.

Besides, that Bill Clinton's Administration was involved with the eventual enlargement of NATO is a matter of public record.

18 posted on 02/28/2023 3:18:31 PM PST by Ultra Sonic 007 (There is nothing new under the sun.)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

I didn’t say he wasn’t involved. I said we dragged our feet, which we did.


19 posted on 02/28/2023 3:24:06 PM PST by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: silverleaf
"I mean, assume that others think as we do and should make the same choices as we do because we are…exceptional"

They think differently.

"And they are, otherwise, bad"

Read the quote on your FR page again.

20 posted on 02/28/2023 4:11:41 PM PST by familyop ("For they that sleep with dogs, shall rise with fleas" (John Webster, "The White Devil" 1612).)
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