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Obama: 'Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f**k things up' - Putin suspends New START nuclear treaty
Twitchy.com ^ | 2/21/2023 | Sam J.

Posted on 02/21/2023 11:08:00 AM PST by NetAddicted

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To: NetAddicted

DC and NATO unilaterally and arbitrarily scrapped the balance of power responsible for averting WWIII since 1945. It’s one thing to have a nuclear treaty when there is a balance of power and a buffer between the superpowers. It’s a whole new ballgame after 30 years of NATO rampant hegemony in Europe. Oh yeah, the largest offensive behemoth the world has ever seen sitting on Russia’s border, preaching Moscow regime change, only a days tank ride from Moscow destroyed the small amount of trust behind previous Salt and Start treaties. Less trust now than anytime during Cold War I.


21 posted on 02/21/2023 12:50:59 PM PST by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

So you must be a biden-lover


22 posted on 02/21/2023 12:57:30 PM PST by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing Obamacare is worse than Obamacare)
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To: Boogieman

1, 2, and 3 are evidence towards what constitutes a neocon/neolib.

You don’t provide evidence that someone is a Putin supporter.

And you yourself are doing this and unjustifiably use their tactics like you are using in your post I’m responding to.


23 posted on 02/21/2023 1:14:47 PM PST by Its All Over Except ...
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To: Boogieman

1, 2, and 3 are evidence towards what constitutes a neocon/neolib.

You don’t provide evidence that someone is a Putin supporter.

And you yourself are doing this and unjustifiably use their tactics like you are using in your post I’m responding to.


24 posted on 02/21/2023 1:16:41 PM PST by Its All Over Except ...
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To: NetAddicted

Good! Even the liberal Democrats are scared enough to want to build up our military forces. Now make plans to cut spending on public education and anti-family social programs.


25 posted on 02/21/2023 1:46:30 PM PST by familyop ("For they that sleep with dogs, shall rise with fleas" (John Webster, "The White Devil" 1612).)
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To: NetAddicted

No big thing, just Putin ending the ONLY nuclear arms control treaty with the United States.

What better way for Biden to say we give it’s your.


26 posted on 02/21/2023 3:08:45 PM PST by Vaduz (LAWYERS )
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“1, 2, and 3 are evidence towards what constitutes a neocon/neolib.”

Which just shows that you are selectively looking at facts that help make your case and ignoring lots of other relevant facts that don’t. That’s not really evidence of anything other than a preexisting bias on your part.

“You don’t provide evidence that someone is a Putin supporter.”

Why should I? You don’t provide any evidence that people who disagree with you actually are “neocon/neolib”. Those are actually defined ideologies, so to provide evidence that someone is one, you can’t just say “they don’t agree with me on these 3 points I selected with a certain bias in mind”. You would have to know their positions on a range of issues and show that they actually line up with the ideology you are accusing them of, which you didn’t do. So if you can call them names without evidence, it’s fair for them to call you names without evidence in return. Turnabout is fair play.

“And you yourself are doing this and unjustifiably use their tactics like you are using in your post I’m responding to.”

False. I didn’t call you any names at all. Nor did I “attack” your points. I simply pointed out hypocrisy.


27 posted on 02/21/2023 3:30:21 PM PST by Boogieman
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>> Obama: ‘Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f**k things up’

But not quite as bad as Mr Clean & Articulate


28 posted on 02/21/2023 4:01:30 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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“That’s OK, with China and Russia banding together, and clueless leftists running everything on our side, we’re going to need all the nukes we can get.”

That’s my thought too - why have a treaty with Russia when China already has nearly as many nukes as we both have combined.


29 posted on 02/21/2023 4:01:55 PM PST by BobL
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"But not quite as bad as Mr Clean & Articulate"


30 posted on 02/22/2023 3:11:40 AM PST by clearcarbon (Fraudulent elections have consequences.)
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To: NetAddicted

So what? Russia’s been building hypersonic super duper ubernukes for years without caring if that has any impact on treaty obligations.

Just like it invaded Ukraine in defiance of multiple binding treaty obligations.

Putin doesn’t like to be constrained by treaty obligations, even when he’s the one who signed them. This step was inevitable, and amounts to nothing more than a diplomatic confirmation of what we already knew.


31 posted on 02/22/2023 6:42:45 AM PST by MalPearce ("You see, but you do not observe". https://www.thefabulous.co/s/2uHEJdj)
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