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The WMD Myth In Iraq That Led To The Chemical Weapons Myth In Syria: A Manipulated Chemical Weapons Watchdog Report? A Pretext For Military Action In Syria?
Nextrush Free ^ | 1/30/2023 | Nextrush/Self

Posted on 01/30/2023 12:07:23 AM PST by Nextrush

"Obviously @count18899. That is why he believed in WMD, when I didn't, and supported the Iraq war, when I didn't. No contest, really. Do you want to add that the wrong brother died (it's all included in the Twitter admission price), or are you quite done for the day?"

Peter Hitchens Twitter Post Saturday 1/28/2023 About His Differences With His Brother The Late Christopher Hitchens Over The Notion Of Weapons Of Mass Destruction In Iraq

In the aftermath of 9/11 it certainly made sense for the US military to go after Osama bin Laden and is Al-Qaeda Organization in Afghanistan.

The two-decade campaign would cost billions and end up in a debacle as the Taliban forces that harbored bin Laden would return to power.

But another priority quickly emerged from the Bush-Cheney Neoconservative policy makers was Iraq...

Of course by the time the clock reached 2006 there were no WMD's to be found in Iraq but new stories found their way into the media indicating that Sadaam Hussein had shipped them to Syria.

In 2011 jihadists (the followers of Osama bin Laden and Al Qaeda) backed by Gulf Arab interests along with the UK and the US began a war against the Assad government in Syria punctuated by constant concerns about the use of chemical weapons.

At one point an international effort was undertook to remove anything...

Once Donald Trump became President incidents (Khan Sheikhoun, Douma 2018) would happen which led to cruise missile strikes on Syria...

After four plus years on Friday January 27th the OPCW is now claiming after the clouds over its chemical weapons probes in Syria that Syria's government was indeed responsible for Douma incident...

(Excerpt) Read more at ...

TOPICS: Government; History; Military/Veterans; Politics
KEYWORDS: blogpimp; christopherhitchens; iraq; notamyth; peterhitchens; syria
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1 posted on 01/30/2023 12:07:23 AM PST by Nextrush
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To: Nextrush

Some U.S. Army personnel would disagree upon coming in contact with Iraq artillery inventory.

Canada took care of Iraq’s large “yellowcake” Uranium inventory—shipped by air by the U.S.

2 posted on 01/30/2023 12:38:16 AM PST by Does so (What distinguishes today's Russian aggression from that of the USSR?)
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To: Nextrush

Who still remembers the huge Russian escorted convoy from Iraq to the Baqaa Valley? The US strafed that convey and nearly killed an important Russian diplomat. I am convinced they were on their way to hide WMD.

3 posted on 01/30/2023 1:18:36 AM PST by Doctor Congo
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To: Nextrush

Leaking Chemical Arty Shells were found... They only left them because they were to dangerous to move.

4 posted on 01/30/2023 1:51:42 AM PST by Pocketdoor
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To: Nextrush

This is the Douma Video that exposes the chemical attacks as staged by the White Helmets.
Netflix did a series on the White Helmets and painted them as humanitarians.
One America News Network
Pearson Sharp

5 posted on 01/30/2023 2:00:47 AM PST by Haddit
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To: Does so; Doctor Congo
UTSW genetic study confirms sarin nerve gas as cause of Gulf War illness
"Troops who had genes that help metabolize sarin were less likely to develop symptoms"
Invited Perspective: Causal Implications of Gene by Environment Studies Applied to Gulf War Illness
The Secret U.S. Casualties of Iraq's Abandoned Chemical Weapons
U.S. troops found nearly 5,000 abandoned chemical weapons in Iraq from 2004 to 2011: report

Along with all the captured documents showing Saddam was planning to restart his chemical weapons program as soon as sanctions were lifted. What was left was enough to show he was trying to avoid complying with the ceasefire.

At the time, security of the operation when there was Iran backed Rebels and left over Baathists insurgents was more important than Bush showing he was right.

Freeper Jveritas covered this at the time.

6 posted on 01/30/2023 2:07:56 AM PST by Widget Jr (🇺🇦 Sláva Ukrayíni 🇺🇦 - No CCCP 2.0)
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To: Nextrush
YouTube Transcribed
Jul 7, 2011
Mr. Schiff: Mr. Speaker, there are moments in the lives of nations when existing order is suddenly revealed as bereft of legitimacy and no longer viable. The wave of unrest spreading across the Arab world, touched off by the self-immolation of a Tunisian fruit vendor tired of petty humiliation by a corrupt government, has exposed the rot of decades of caprice, corruption and incompetence. That this one man’s desperate act could lead to the downfall of the governments of Tunisia, Egypt and, perhaps Yemen, is testament to the pent up frustration of millions of people who are denied the basic rights and economic opportunity that we take for granted here in the West.

But it is in Syria, where the future of the Arab Spring seemingly hangs in the balance and where the security services have acted with the least restraint and maximum violence. Like marauding armies of old, select units of military and security services, troops have been moving from city to city in a quest to quash the ever-spreading demonstrations that have become a feature of life in Syria.

Derra, a town of some 75,000 lying near the border with Jordan, has emerged as one of the centers of the Syrian uprising against the 40 years of rule by the Assad family. Army and security forces have repeatedly assaulted the town and surrounding villages, killing hundreds of civilians and arresting anyone suspected of taking part in demonstrations against the regime.

On April 29 in the village of Jiza, the Syrian secret police rounded up anybody it thought was involved with the protests, including Hamza Ali al-Khateeb, who had gone to watch the demonstration with other members of his family. For a month, Hamza family waited for him to return, worried but hopeful he would be released unharmed. It was not to be. On May 30, his mutilated body was returned to them. He had been tortured, subjected to repeated electric shocks, and whipped with cables. His eyes were swollen and black, and there were identical bullet wounds where he had been apparently shot through both arms, the bullets lodging in his belly. On his chest was a deep, dark burn mark. His neck was broken and parts of his body were cut off.

Hamza Ali al-Khateeb was 13 years old. Video of the boy’s shattered body has been seen by millions on television and the internet, and Hamza, like the Tunisian fruit vendor who set himself alight, has become a symbol to his countrymen and the world of the depravity and illegitimacy of a regime that would torture its own children to death.

Our ability to bring additional economic pressure on Syria is limited. Its economy is already under immense strain. It is small, weak and isolated. Political pressure in the form of a U.N. Security Resolution condemning the violence and crackdown has been blocked by Russia and China, and there’s dread over what will happen when Assad falls.

Given the internal divisions between Sunni and Shi`ia Muslims, Christians and Druse,, the confessional and sectarian splits are as pronounced as in Lebanon, the potential for large scale violence as great as Iraq. The dangers are real, but the promise of what began in Tunisia and is now materializing in Egypt and elsewhere is also real.

People of courage can determine their own destiny and it need not be one of hereditary dictatorship, kleptocracy or lack of opportunity and stagnation. In the Arab world as elsewhere, people should be free to choose their own government to represent them and to chart a path of peace with their neighbors.

To conclude otherwise means that we relegate tens of millions of people to suffer of capricious ruthlessness of their despots for generation after generation or we’re willing to trade the illusion of stability for the harsh reality of their suffering. That’s not the choice we made for ourselves 235 years ago and it is not one that we should presume to make for others. Bashar al-Assad is a ruthless tyrant whose time has passed and who clings to power by only by virtue of brutal force.

Our role and that of the international community should be to work with Syrian opposition figures and others to advance a negotiated transition to a new Syrian government that will represent all Syrians and prevent the trading in of one set of thugs for another.

The Arab Spring cannot be allowed to fail because of brutal repression, the specter of religious fanaticism, a fear of the unknown or the cynicism born of unmet expectations. The region’s many millions must have the freedom to write a new chapter for themselves and their posterity. I thank the Speaker and yield back the balance of my time.

7 posted on 01/30/2023 2:10:43 AM PST by Haddit
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To: Nextrush

As of September there were more than 5.6 million Syrian refugees registered with UNHCR in neighboring countries and 6.2 million IDPs. The regime frequently blocked access for humanitarian assistance and removed items such as medical supplies from convoys headed to civilian areas, particularly areas held by opposition groups.

Media sources and human rights groups varied in their estimates of how many persons have been killed since the beginning of the conflict in 2011. The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights documented more than 570,000 conflict-related deaths from 2011 until March, while the SNHR estimated more than 220,000 civilians were killed during the same time. This large discrepancy was due to the large number of missing and disappeared Syrians, whose fates remained unknown. The SNHR attributed 89 percent of civilian deaths to regime forces and Iraniansponsored militias

8 posted on 01/30/2023 2:12:03 AM PST by Haddit
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To: Nextrush

Stop Arming Terrorists
On December 8, 2016, Rep. Tulsi Gabbard (HI-02) introduced the Stop Arming Terrorists Act

VIDEO: Rep. Tulsi Gabbard Introduces Legislation to Stop Arming Terrorists
December 8, 2016
Press Release

Washington, DC—Rep. Tulsi Gabbard (HI-02) introduced the Stop Arming Terrorists Act today. The legislation would prohibit the U.S. government from using American taxpayer dollars to provide funding, weapons, training, and intelligence support to groups like the Levant Front, Fursan al Ha and other allies of Jabhat Fateh al-Sham, al-Qaeda and ISIS, or to countries who are providing direct or indirect support to those same groups.

The legislation is cosponsored by Reps. Peter Welch (D-VT-AL), Barbara Lee (D-CA-13), Dana Rohrabacher (R-CA-48), and Thomas Massie (R-KY-04), and supported by the Progressive Democrats of America (PDA) and the U.S. Peace Council.

Video of Rep. Tulsi Gabbard’s speech on the House floor is available here
Rep. Tulsi Gabbard said, “Under U.S. law it is illegal for any American to provide money or assistance to al-Qaeda, ISIS or other terrorist groups. If you or I gave money, weapons or support to al-Qaeda or ISIS, we would be thrown in jail. Yet the U.S. government has been violating this law for years, quietly supporting allies and partners of al-Qaeda, ISIL, Jabhat Fateh al Sham and other terrorist groups with money, weapons, and intelligence support, in their fight to overthrow the Syrian government.[i]

“The CIA has also been funneling weapons and money through Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Qatar and others who provide direct and indirect support to groups like ISIS and al-Qaeda. This support has allowed al-Qaeda and their fellow terrorist organizations to establish strongholds throughout Syria, including in Aleppo.

“A New York Times article confirmed that ‘rebel groups’ supported by the U.S. ‘have entered into battlefield alliances with the affiliate of al-Qaeda in Syria, formerly known as al Nusra.’ This alliance has rendered the phrase ‘moderate rebels’ meaningless. Reports confirm that ‘every armed anti-Assad organization unit in those provinces [of Idlib and Aleppo] is engaged in a military structure controlled by [al-Qaeda’s] Nusra militants.’

“A recent Wall Street Journal article reported that many rebel groups are ‘doubling down on their alliance’ with al Nusra. Some rebel groups are renewing their alliance, while others, like Nour al-Din al-Zinki, a former CIA-backed group and one of the largest factions in Aleppo are joining for the first time. “The Syria Conquest Front—formerly known as the al-Qaeda-linked Nusra Front—is deeply intermingled with armed opposition groups of all stripes across Syria’s battlefields.”

“The CIA has long been supporting a group called Fursan al Haqq, providing them with salaries, weapons and support, including surface to air missiles. This group is cooperating with and fighting alongside an al-Qaeda affiliated group trying to overthrow the Syrian government. The Levant Front is another so-called moderate umbrella group of Syrian opposition fighters. Over the past year, the United States has been working with Turkey to give this group intelligence support and other forms of military assistance. This group has joined forces with al-Qaeda’s offshoot group in Syria.

“This madness must end. We must stop arming terrorists. The Government must end this hypocrisy and abide by the same laws that apply to its’ citizens.

“That is why I’ve introduced the Stop Arming Terrorists bill—legislation based on congressional action during the Iran-Contra affair to stop the CIA’s illegal arming of rebels in Nicaragua. It will prohibit any Federal agency from using taxpayer dollars to provide weapons, cash, intelligence, or any support to al-Qaeda, ISIS and other terrorist groups, and it will prohibit the government from funneling money and weapons through other countries who are directly or indirectly supporting terrorists,” concluded Rep. Tulsi Gabbard.

9 posted on 01/30/2023 2:17:56 AM PST by Haddit
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It’s always shocked me whenever anyone attempts to raise SNHR as a credible source.

They are not at all.

It is one guy, a very very biased guy with biased reports.

I can’t believe a Freeper would actually post them as if they are the voice of the authority when it is total hokum.

10 posted on 01/30/2023 2:19:32 AM PST by Mount Athos
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To: Does so
Of course journos and far leftist bloggers will keep writing no WMD in Iraq.  I google'd "550 metric tons yellow cake 37 c-17 flights to diego garcia buld ship to canada" and ......

But George Soros' funded is not clear whether 550 metric tons of yellow cakes were hauled secretly by 37 USAF C-17 flights from Iraq to Diego Garcia and secretly shipped to Canada.

Ah, 550 metric tons yellow cakes are raw not weapon grade?  Oh yeah?  Per ton yellow cakes can be processed in to one megaton like Iran now doing?

11 posted on 01/30/2023 2:22:50 AM PST by wannabegeek
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To: Mount Athos

There are no reliable sources.
There was little news about our 2011 wars in Egypt, Libya and Syria.
These were regime change wars like Ukraine today and 2014.
5,430,828 views Jul 24, 2022
A few months ago I had the privilege of being able to enter and see parts of western Syria. We went to see a few of the country’s major cities and ancient historical sights. Our trip was very emotionally challenging but also beautiful in many ways. Meeting Syrians, hearing their stories and capturing a small part of what the country looks like today was not a simple goal but one I hope you will enjoy joining me on. Sending lots of love to all of the Syrians of the world. Thank you for welcoming me and teaching me about your culture.

12 posted on 01/30/2023 2:27:20 AM PST by Haddit
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To: Haddit

My days of posting about Ukraine are pretty much over on this site, but I can tell you as someone who went there every year that the press is lying about everything, and lots of freepers have convinced themselves of things that are completely untrue

13 posted on 01/30/2023 2:31:23 AM PST by Mount Athos
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To: Does so

Correct, and the NYT reported at the time that yellowcake had been found in Iraq.

14 posted on 01/30/2023 2:49:46 AM PST by sauropod (“If they don’t believe our lies, well, that’s just conspiracy theorist stuff, there.”)
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Soros Admits Responsibility for Coup and Mass Murder in Ukraine
27 May 2014 | Infowars

George Soros told CNN’s Fareed Zakaria over the weekend he is responsible for establishing a foundation in Ukraine that ultimately contributed to the overthrow of the country’s elected leader and the installation of a junta handpicked by the State Department.

“First on Ukraine, one of the things that many people recognized about you was that you during the revolutions of 1989 funded a lot of dissident activities, civil society groups in eastern Europe and Poland, the Czech Republic. Are you doing similar things in Ukraine?” Zakaria asked Soros.

“Well, I set up a foundation in Ukraine before Ukraine became independent of Russia. And the foundation has been functioning ever since and played an important part in events now,” Soros responded.

It is well-known, although forbidden for the establishment media to mention, that Soros worked closely with USAID, the National Endowment for Democracy (now doing work formerly assigned to the CIA), the International Republican Institute, the National Democratic Institute for International Affairs, the Freedom House, and the Albert Einstein Institute to initiate a series of color revolutions in Eastern Europe and Central Asia following the engineered collapse of the Soviet Union.

“Many of the participants in Kiev’s ‘EuroMaidan’ demonstrations were members of Soros-funded NGOs and/or were trained by the same NGOs in the many workshops and conferences sponsored by Soros’ International Renaissance Foundation (IRF), and his various Open Society institutes and foundations. The IRF, founded and funded by Soros, boasts that it has given ‘more than any other donor organization’ to ‘democratic transformation’ of Ukraine,” writes William F. Jasper.

This transformation led to fascist ultra-nationalists controlling Ukraine’s security services. In April it was announced Andriy Parubiy and other coup leaders were working with the FBI and CIA to defeat and murder separatists opposed to the junta government installed by Victoria Nuland and the State Department. Parubiy is the founder of a national socialist party in Ukraine and currently the boss of the country’s National Security and Defense Council.

Now that the billionaire “chocolate king” Petro Poroshenko is president of Ukraine, the effort to wipe out all opposition in eastern Ukraine will pick up steam. Poroshenko is a near perfect choice for the globalists and EU apparatchiks. He sat on the Council of the National Bank of Ukraine and collaborated with the IMF, Wall Street and the European Commission.

Poroshenko and the February coup leaders are now killing civilians in Donetsk as the effort continues to dislodge and eradicate “pro-Russian militants” and “terrorists,” i.e., armed resistance fighters going up against Right Sector enforcers possibly accompanied by American mercenaries with the help of the CIA. Civilians are also victims in “rebel”-held Slovyansk and neighboring Kramatorsk as retaliation against resistance to the junta in Kyiv intensifies.

The military response with its overly fascist character, including the terrorist torching of a trade union building in Odessa by “pro-regime rioters” (i.e., Right Sector paramilitaries), can be directly attributed to the activism of George Soros and the hands-on approach of the U.S. State Department, various NGOs (which are, in fact, government and Wall Street fronts), and USAID, NED, and the malattributed “Freedom House,” etc.

Following the murder and expulsion of those opposed to the IMF lording over the government and the people of Ukraine, Russia can expect further provocation, especially now that it has stepped away from supporting the resistance. The financial elite and their EU collaborators are determined to diminish and ultimately eliminate any challenge by Russia and the BRICS as these countries move to counter the neoliberal financial agenda.

15 posted on 01/30/2023 2:57:41 AM PST by Haddit
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To: Does so
Canada took care of Iraq’s large “yellowcake” Uranium inventory—shipped by air by the U.S.

500 tons of uranium shipped from Iraq, Pentagon says

Syria's Chemical Weapons Came From Saddam's Iraq

16 posted on 01/30/2023 3:08:07 AM PST by Hot Tabasco
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To: Haddit
That's likely Russian disinfo. The actual source for that was from the Russia Centre for Syria Reconciliation which is run by the Russian military. As bad as the US press is, the Russian press is always worse. Especially when the story is from the Russian military!
17 posted on 01/30/2023 3:38:48 AM PST by Widget Jr
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To: Widget Jr

I followed your link.

The video I posted was from One America News Network
Pearson Sharp

Although there is a video from Russia’s RT at the Hague…
weapons: Douma witnesses speak at OPCW briefing at The Hague (VIDEO)
© Michael Kooren © Reuters
Witnesses of the alleged chemical attack in Douma, including 11-year-old Hassan Diab and hospital staff, told reporters at The Hague that the White Helmets video used as a pretext for a US-led strike on Syria was, in fact, staged.

“We were at the basement and we heard people shouting that we needed to go to a hospital. We went through a tunnel. At the hospital they started pouring cold water on me,” the boy told the press conference, gathered by Russia’s mission at the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical

18 posted on 01/30/2023 4:01:46 AM PST by Haddit
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The Government must end this hypocrisy and abide by the same laws that apply to its’ citizens

That would be a first. Wouldn't we all love to see that day?

19 posted on 01/30/2023 4:08:36 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith…)
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Soros traffics in revolution and human misery. His devious business deals have brought the financial systems of the United Kingdom and Malaysia to their knees. Soros helped finance the Czech Republic’s 1989 “Velvet Revolution.” He acknowledged having orchestrated coups in Croatia, Georgia, Slovakia, and Yugoslavia. In the United States, he has financed the violent, politically destabilizing Occupy Wall Street and Black Lives Matter movements.

“The main obstacle to a stable and just world order is the United States,”

20 posted on 01/30/2023 4:35:55 AM PST by Haddit
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