Posted on 01/26/2023 7:05:28 AM PST by MNDude
This is a proxy war, with Ukraine representing NATO and Russia representing China. Without Chinese support through purchasing Russian oil and minerals, the Russians would be incapable of sustaining their invasion.
How Neville Chamberlain of him.
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Chamberlain was trying to avoid a war.
Trump wants to avoid a cataclysmic event. Once the nukes start flying nobody really knows how far it will go. It could prove to be difficult to contain.
Trump is a deal maker. The world desperately needs one right now. There will be no winners in the next big war.
What is the new ceiling on equipment we wont send? Now tanks going and clamoring for F-16 jets ( with Western volunteers to fly them until Ukes trained on them?
If they felt they needed tactical nukes to defend against RU invasion would we conder it? I think be careful before saying no way. Is the West feeling guilty for agreeing to defend Ukraine in exchange for it giving up it’s own nukes thirty years ago? They should.
All of Ukraine.
Stop US support and it would happen quickly.
Ending that war is the only interest the US has in Ukraine.
Has it occured to anyone, even folks like VermontLt, that maybe, just maybe, the support should stop as all it’s doing is prolonging everything.
I think it’s pretty obvious that Putin isn’t going to be around much longer.
What will the next Russian do? Will they let Ukraine live a peaceful existence? Or will they wipe it off the map? NOT ONE PERSON ON HERE KNOWS, BUT THEY DAMNED SURE WILL SPECULATE.
Maybe some of them have access to the same Top Secret paperwork that Hunter had access to when he composed that email, that was obviously copied and pasted from some government document.
Someone on this site just responded to me that a “survey of Ukrainians support the war and will fight”. While another survey says that a very sizable chunk of folks in Ukraine identify as Russian and speak Russian as a first language.
Lets not forget that Ukraine was part of the Soviet Union at one point. Not saying that was right, but it’s kind of a made up country that has suddenly become BFFs with the US and NATO. Lets not forget that it’s considered one of the most corrupt countries on the planet and more and more evidence is being exposed that the Biden family used it to make lots and lots of money. So, I guess a sitting President, his warhawk/neocon supporters in Congress are ok to play with our money, gear and Ukrainian lives, to satisfy their thirst for war and to keep things from coming to light. And of course, keep those dollars rolling into all the defense contractors making bank, right now.
And, all of this while our country is being destroyed with illegals, drugs and violence. But, for those of you that haven’t been effected by any of that, yet, it’s easy to worry about a country most of you couldn’t point to on a map. As long as you “Pray for Ukraine” and have the Ukraine flag on next to your name.
VermontLt and all the rest can head to DC and hold a flag with this cuck....
Dontarius Vs Ukrainian Protestors ..... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CkZaaoi17Y
Trump need to just fly over on his own and negotiate the deal. Kind of like what Jimmah Cahtah did to Clinton with the NORKS
“What is Trump’s easy plan to end the war?”
Click this link to learn one crazy trick to get Vladimir Putin to stop invading your country!
Plenty here on this forum trust Biden and western media and some foreign policy completely on this
Emphatically
Trust me
And if you nonconcur you’re a commie
Remember when the Europeans were screeching about our “Cowboy” President getting us into a war with Russia?
Democrat bombs are OK, I guess.
The trannies run on the tran tracks. I thought everyone knew that. :)
Have you ever thought, in that feeble brain of yours, that someone, President Trump, could sit down with both of these guys and simply ask what they want? Nah, not you and your ilk. More money, more bombs, tanks, soon F16s, more everything to prolong the misery.
Someone simply meet with Putin, ask him what he wants and why. And use that as a starting point in NEGOTIATIONS.
Hell, if that person is lucky, he might even be able to get some type of cease fire while NEGOTIATIONS take place.
Nahhhhh....Not you VermontLt, from the comfort of your home in the UNITED STATES. More money, more bombs, tanks, soon F16s, more death, more everything to prolong the misery, while you watch it all play out from the comfort of your living room.
The Democrats are intentionally prolonging the war. The minute the US tells Ukraine it’s time to sit down and negotiate an exit strategy with the Russians, the war is over.
NO ONE tried to pull this crap under President Trump’s watch.
Biden signaled to the world, through his complete incompetence in Afghanistan and elsewhere, that he is incapable of leading.
It is FR common courtesy to ping the member you are posting about.
One could make a strong argument that since Ukraine gave up its nukes in return for a promise that we would defend them from a Russian invasion, that we are in breach of that agreed to contract, the contract is void, and their nukes must be returned to heal the breach and make them whole.
What is Trump’s easy plan to end the war?
How much territory of someone else’s country is he willing to give away?
How Neville Chamberlain of him.
Exactly. This is a hot war and Trump is casually using it as a social media troll. Trump World is pandering to the nutjob political fringe because Trump needs their votes to beat a more mainstream DeSantis in a primary. This won’t end well for MAGA. Guaranteed.
It’s time you get a Booster and head to the front. You have displayed remarkable bravery behind a keyboard and now it’s time for real action on the battlefield!
JonPreston, I’m glad I’m not the only person on FR that has identified the oozing amounts of heroism, pent up inside of VermontLt. I’m thinking, he and a few others on this site, everyone of them heroes, could form a unit kind of like the Dirty Dozen. VermontLt can play the role Major John Reisman(Lee Marvin for those that don’t know) and lead these men into battle.
Perhaps win the whole thing in a week, become heroes of Ukraine and, if they’re lucky, Zelensky and his pals, using all the money they’ve stolen, can gift a waterfront villa to VermontLt and his crew for all their heroic deeds.
And then they can all travel to DC to get the Presidential Medal of Freedom from Biden and go to parties with Graham, McConnell and the defense industry folks.
Russia is threating to nuke us. That’s not our problem? Surrendering to nuclear blackmail will just encourage it and eventual use of nukes. North Korea, China, Iran. Everybody is watching now. Projecting weakness just encourages all our enemies.
It’s not a proxy war. Ukrainians want to be Ukrainian. Putin needs them to be Russian because Russia is demographically dying. Sometimes things are not about us. This is one of them.
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