In Groundbreaking Ruling 5th Circuit Strikes Down ATF’s Bump Stock Ban

AmmoLand ^ | January 18, 2023 | Dean Weingarten

[joma89]

Agreed. Thanks for pointing that out. President Trump did remake alot of the courts around the country to at least have parity.

[Mr. Blond]

They need to strike the pistol-brace ban immediately.

[SgtHooper]

What will that do it then becoming an SBR, if that’s true?

[sauropod]

Study.

[Mr. Blond]

It would simply remain a pistol with a brace. Or it may destroy the NFA entirely.

[SgtHooper]

Obviously, the latter would be a huge win! The ATF needs to learn that whatever the rule they promulgate, the far more intelligent users create a work-around!

[SgtHooper]

The new rule indicates that anyone having one of these questionable “rifles” can file the NFA form for the stamp and NOT have to pay the $200 stamp fee. So May 13 is the deadline after which peeps may be singled out, tortured, storm-troopered at 3AM, etc.

[smokingfrog]

Like this
https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB124001537515830975

[publiusF27]

The Biden administration's SCOTUS brief in support of Trump's bump stock ban is out.

This footnote is the telling part:

ATF’s regulation and our opening brief inadvertently misstated the number of classification letters between 2008 and 2017 in which ATF had concluded that certain bump-stock devices did not enable a firearm to fire “automatically” and thus did not convert weapons into machineguns. See Gov’t Br. 8 (citing 83 Fed. Reg. at 66,517). Respondent correctly observes (Br. 7, 21) that the record includes 15 such classification letters.

Oops. We got it wrong 15 times before Trump set everyone straight about what the law actually says.

This is the best amicus brief at dispelling that notion IMO:

Brief amici curiae of Second Amendment Law Center, Second Amendment Defense and Education Coalition, Federal Firearms Licensees of Illinois, California Rifle & Pistol Association, Inc., and Guns Save Life filed.

My view is that TeamR is ready to accept Trump's interpretation because Trump and TeamD will accept anything gungrabby, including Trump grabbing power they know he did not have, and both sides should be ashamed.

[publiusF27]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/977286489410240514

[publiusF27]

ATF estimates 520,000 people own bumpstocks. Hmmmm

Several hundred have been turned in, including Cargill's that will be discussed Wednesday at SCOTUS.

So there are still probably about 520,000 is my guess.

Businesses who could not hide their previously-legal inventory were the only ones to really comply with the ban.

[publiusF27]

If SCOTUS overturns Trump's bump stock ban, what becomes of the ?

RW Arms, a prominent bump stock retailer based in Fort Worth, Texas, says its entire remaining inventory of 60,000 bump stocks has now been turned over to the ATF's custody. The items will be "shredded and recycled under the supervision of ATF agents," the company said.

In the run-up to the total ban, RW Arms had rushed to sell as many bump stocks as it could, posting a countdown clock on its website to warn customers of the impending change. Its bump stocks were priced as low as $179

So one day they had about a million dollars in inventory, then Trump changed his mind about what the law said and suddenly they had an expensive disposal problem with their newly illegal property.

It's like we don't have a fifth amendment at all. Trump decided their inventory was a public nuisance and that was the end of their property rights.