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Mike Pompeo: Trump told me ‘shut the hell up’ about China COVID secrecy
New York Post ^ | January 19, 2023 | Steven Nelson

Posted on 01/20/2023 3:39:15 PM PST by Macho MAGA Man

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To: Macho MAGA Man
I'd like to see Pompeo for President with DeSantis as VP.

And I'll wait till we read this little item in context...not piecemeal.

Pompeo is the good guy and what we need at the present....someone familiar with every leader in every country.

21 posted on 01/20/2023 5:23:29 PM PST by Sacajaweau ( )
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To: semimojo

I went with a source you’re likely to trust, The NY Times:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/29/health/coronavirus-testing.html

As reported by the NYT on August 29 in an article titled “Your Coronavirus Test Is Positive. Maybe It Shouldn’t Be“:

The PCR test amplifies genetic matter from the virus in cycles; the fewer cycles required, the greater the amount of virus, or viral load, in the sample. The greater the viral load, the more likely the patient is to be contagious.

This number of amplification cycles needed to find the virus, called the cycle threshold, is never included in the results sent to doctors and coronavirus patients, although it could tell them how infectious the patients are.

In three sets of testing data that include cycle thresholds, compiled by officials in Massachusetts, New York and Nevada, up to 90 percent of people testing positive carried barely any virus, a review by The Times found.

Up to 90 percent of “positive cases” barely contained a trace of virus. Virologists contacted by the NYT were “stunned.”

https://www.johnlocke.org/the-fog-of-covid-19-data-how-many-cases-arent-even-cases/


22 posted on 01/20/2023 5:27:09 PM PST by Golden Eagle (The LGBT indoctrination agenda is designed to outlaw the Bible, and anyone who follows it.)
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To: Sacajaweau

Pompeo is DC swamp scum. But he’s a good actor!

Reminds of those Hollywood actors who play the part of the big, fat, ugly, racist, redneck cop..... who are actually woke liberals in real life.

Pompeo is the opposite. He plays the role of a Christian Conservative. In real life he’s probably an Epstein Island regular and spirit cooker.


23 posted on 01/20/2023 5:34:35 PM PST by The Fop (God Bless Donald Trump, Frank Sinatra, Joan Rivers, and the Fightin' Rat Pack Wing of the GOP)
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To: The Fop

You’re being ridiculous. Obviously, you know nothing about him.


24 posted on 01/20/2023 5:38:12 PM PST by Sacajaweau ( )
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To: Macho MAGA Man

OK Mike so STH up!


25 posted on 01/20/2023 6:36:55 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Golden Eagle
I went with a source you’re likely to trust, The NY Times:

From 2.5 years ago.

What's your best estimate of the number of Americans who've died because they got a Covid infection?

26 posted on 01/20/2023 7:12:30 PM PST by semimojo
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To: semimojo

I’d have to look into that a bit, to give you my own personal estimate. But, for something rough, let’s start with what you said, ~1M.

Well, we can probably throw that right out, based on the US census bureau info, which shows a one time overall US death rate spike in 2020 of 500K, with all other years remaining consistent:

https://www.census.gov/library/stories/2022/03/united-states-deaths-spiked-as-covid-19-continued.html

That 500K death increase seems to be the largest I could find, with others showing the covid years all completely flat with regard to the overall US death rate. This was the #1 hit on Google, for example:

https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/USA/united-states/death-rate

But for 2020 there was possibly a maximum of 500K increase in deaths. Then you’d have to start parsing how many of those died “with covid” verses “from covid” which we all know is not the exact same thing.

In fact, based on The NY Times study already discussed, they may not have even had covid at all, but were treated for it, and the treatments being used by many hospitals and nursing homes were known to have a very high mortality rate.

From ventilators, morphine, Remdesivir, etc, many are believed to have died from treatments applied, and may have been misdiagnosed as having covid to begin with. There was also a well publicized monetary award given out based on reported covid deaths.

So, if you take the 500K total increase in US deaths above normal from the census, and cut that in half to 250K as it appears the 500K number may be an outlier, and remember the NYT study proving unreliability of the PCR tests resulted in massive over-application of some treatment options that often resulted in fatality, as well as people that may have been over-treated due to a financial incentive of the institution, you could be looking at a number of directly attributable covid deaths that’s down around 100K, or less, realistically.

This is a quick 20 minute wag of course, but it matches up pretty close to the shocking admission by the CDC last year that for 94% of the reported deaths attributed to covid, there was actually a “contributing condition”:

https://www.wfla.com/community/health/coronavirus/new-cdc-report-shows-94-of-covid-19-deaths-in-us-had-underlying-medical-conditions/

According to the report, only 6% of deaths actually have COVID-19 as the only cause mentioned, revealing that 94% of patients who were reported to have died from coronavirus also had other “health conditions and contributing causes.”

So 6% of your 1.1M is, 66K.


27 posted on 01/20/2023 10:18:34 PM PST by Golden Eagle (The LGBT indoctrination agenda is designed to outlaw the Bible, and anyone who follows it.)
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To: Golden Eagle
Well, we can probably throw that right out, based on the US census bureau info, which shows a one time overall US death rate spike in 2020 of 500K, with all other years remaining consistent:

I think you're misinterpreting the data.

The number of deaths spiked in 2020 with 535K more than in 2019. In 2021 that increase remained plus another 28K so the deaths in 2021 were 563K higher than in 2019.

In 2020-2021 there were 1.1M more deaths than you would expect from the 2019 baseline.

This was the #1 hit on Google, for example:

Did you notice the red box at the top of the page saying:

"NOTE: All 2020 and later data are UN projections and DO NOT include any impacts of the COVID-19 virus."

According to the report, only 6% of deaths actually have COVID-19 as the only cause mentioned, revealing that 94% of patients who were reported to have died from coronavirus also had other “health conditions and contributing causes.”

Of course, Covid is more deadly in high-risk people. That's why I asked about people who died because they got a Covid infection, not those who died of Covid with no other factors.

No matter, the census data you posted clearly shows 1.1M more deaths in 20-21, so whether it was the flu or Covid I don't think Fauci just made it up, as you claimed.

28 posted on 01/21/2023 7:54:45 AM PST by semimojo
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To: semimojo

Corrections noted, thank you! As I said, that was a quick and dirty look, at the stroke of midnight, no less. I truly appreciate a discerning eye review.

Ok, so let’s go with the 1M spike in deaths, between 2020 and 2021. The vax was out in 2021, remember. And, the variants of covid were considered significantly less dangerous by then as well.

So, I’d say there’s at least a reasonable possibility that a portion of those 2021 deaths are more related to the vax, than covid itself. The vax is designed to release the spike protein in the body, just as the virus itself does, and many believe the spike protein is actually the most dangerous component itself.


29 posted on 01/21/2023 8:34:34 AM PST by Golden Eagle (The LGBT indoctrination agenda is designed to outlaw the Bible, and anyone who follows it.)
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To: semimojo
I don't think Fauci just made it up, as you claimed.

To be clear, I never made anything even close to that claim, so your claim above is the one that's completely incorrect. Thanks.

30 posted on 01/21/2023 8:37:13 AM PST by Golden Eagle (The LGBT indoctrination agenda is designed to outlaw the Bible, and anyone who follows it.)
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To: Golden Eagle
To be clear, I never made anything even close to that claim, so your claim above is the one that's completely incorrect.

You're right, sorry.

It was the poster I was originally replying to when you entered the conversation.

31 posted on 01/21/2023 8:44:03 AM PST by semimojo
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To: FreeReign
"Shut up for a while....needed personal protective equipment from China."

I recall news articles from back then describing the Chinese preemptively buying out PPE inventory from American marketers, not that it would have made a difference.
32 posted on 01/21/2023 6:30:53 PM PST by clearcarbon (Fraudulent elections have consequences.)
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