Posted on 01/03/2023 9:40:46 AM PST by Kazan
“...payback for Korea, Vietnam...wars the USA should never have been in and lost.”
The war we lost in Korea as we stare in amazement at the economic miracle that is South Korea. Oh, I guess we did loose the N Korea part, and what an admirable success that poor country is. Now S. Korea sends military supplies to Ukraine, while N. Korea mostly sends masses of slave(?) labor to Russia. Of course it is possible these laborers sent to Russia actually consider being in Russia is an improvement over their lives in the total police state that is N. Korea.
Interestingly, while one could say China won the part of the war that ended with a N. Korea, and we lost Vietnam, look at the current situation. We now have decent relations with Vietnam and may end up helping their sphere of influence claims in the South Chinese Sea against China. Meanwhile Vietnam, which has had considerable success with Covid, is now sucking away international business from China which, if it did engineer Covid, has certainly shot itself in the foot.
By the way, does anyone have information about the actual situation of the claimed 100,000 N. Korean laborers loaned to Russia?
It probably was 600 or maybe even 700. The number repeatedly quoted by Russian sources remains at 63. So many were killed they had to make some much smaller admission. With that number “killed” the death toll would certainly have to be revised upward as some seriously injured died. I have seen before and after videos/photos of this School #10 which was a technical college. It was a large, square, modern 3 story building, standing in a large empty area (as shown by aerial photo) probably parking lot. The remains are total rubble with almost NO large remnants. Much more ruin than a single or even 2 HIMARs could cause.
Apparently a large number of soldiers were gathered to listen to Putin’s New Years address. Under then large amounts of ammunition and other explosives were stored. It is possible other soldiers were in their rooms/beds in the school, as photos did NOT indicate any barracks buildings near this large school. It is said officers were celebrating elsewhere. Russia also reports 4 HIMARs arrived and two were blocked. At least one HIMAR penetrated to the stored explosives—result horror. No doubt deliberately timed to celebrate Comrade Putin’s victory speech.
My vote is to believe 400 killed and perhaps as many as 300 injured. When I saw the wreckage video, many were reported still buried in the ruins, although no rescue digging was shown. Perhaps death was presumed because of the totality of the disintegration. How nice to have allies at hand to forward intelligence, verbally and in photos. Given how well Russia treats it’s own troops, I imagine they are doing a great job of winning friends and influencing people (to get rid of as many Russians as possible).
There was another mass casualty strike killing another 500 near Chulakivka.
There may have been another conducted by the Ukrainian Air Force in Fedorivka. Results are not in.
The reason for these large numbers is that Russian logistics is due to the bureaucratic nature of the Russian Army, organizational issues are sorted extremely horribly.
“The Ukraine ignoring the Minsk Agreements...is what got us to where we are today.”
NO, the deliberate murder by starvation of several million Ukrainians by Russians, is what WILL keep us where we are today.
Are Chulakivka and Fedorivka both in Ukraine claimed territory? Several days ago I saw reports of burning in Moscow, St. Pete and about 4 or 5 other locations in Russia. any further word on those reports? More details on these 2 new reported disasters would also be appreciated.
A different and also plausable reason for concentrated Russian troops (when not deployed in combat) I read elsewhere. This explanation was that the troops are kept together for supervision so they don’t escape or defect to Ukraine as prisoners. The housing of troops above large stocks of explosives is, of course, a horrible bureaucratic decision or lack of complete information to such a distant bureaucrat. Long may this stupidity continue!
Both reasons are true in that bureaucracy is responsible for the jam up in the first place because the troops cannot be dispatched in a timely fashion.
Chulakivka and Fedorivka is south of Kherson
“Two other wholly needless and pointless wars the USA should never have been in and lost.”
It’s all so easy to say that resisting the Communists who were openly trying to overthrow EVERY other government on the planet was “pointless”, in retrospect, after they were defeated (at least one version of them). But unless you can invent a time machine, go back and let the commies do as they please in order to demonstrate that the world would have been a better place had we made that choice, it’s just a silly assertion without meaning.
“Of course it is possible these laborers sent to Russia actually consider being in Russia is an improvement over their lives in the total police state that is N. Korea.”
It’s probably paradise to them. There’s meat on the table and nobody in Russia is going to shoot them as long as they keep working.
Hey, what’s a little Holodomor 2.0, between Slavic brothers?
thanks, makes sense
Slava Ukraini
“More Russians will die. And that is fine with me.”
I absolutely agree 100%. I have no dog in this hunt, but just to watch the inept way Russia is fighting is fine with me. Conventionally, a toothless circus bear. Nuclear...the jury is still out with me (they have only proved they can launch ICBMs - functional warheads are even harder).
Two locations south of Kherson. Shounds like a good move preparatory to a big move on Crimea. Hope, hope!
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