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AZ: Mt Lemmon Bear Attack, Details from 1996
Gun Watch ^ | December 21, 2017 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 12/25/2022 7:19:15 AM PST by marktwain

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To: Tijeras_Slim

I will up my game.
125 gr JHP ain’t gonna work out here.
CorBon has a 200gr Hard cast that’s a bit under BB’s energy.
I’ll tune up before some bear country Hiking-——‐Giddyup!
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.38 +P Outdoorsman....👍


41 posted on 12/25/2022 5:51:20 PM PST by Big Red Badger (The Truman Show)
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To: Big Red Badger

A GP 100 will soak up recoil a lot better than a light J Frame. Even slow heavy bullets will give excellent penetration. Think of the buffalo hunters slinging 500 grains at 1200- 1300 fps and doing the job.


42 posted on 12/25/2022 6:04:10 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim ( )
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To: AnAmericanMother

I had fair luck with cast wheel weight bullets (230 grain .45 bullets) loaded to about 700 fps in my Webleys.


43 posted on 12/25/2022 6:08:29 PM PST by marktwain
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I'll have to dig out the little furnace and give it a try.

Best thing about Webleys is their weight. Even a relatively hot load doesn't deliver much felt recoil.

And as my dear father remarked (alum of the old 79th Cameron Highlanders in WWII), if you run out of ammo you can easily hit somebody over the head with it and knock them out cold.

44 posted on 12/26/2022 7:27:08 AM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ecce Crucem Domini, fugite partes adversae. Vicit Leo de Tribu Iuda, Radix David, Alleluia!)
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At least it is lighter than a Colt 1911!

You might enjoy this book: The Webley Service Revolver by Robert Maze.

They are available on Amazon and ABE books.

I enjoyed it.

45 posted on 12/26/2022 7:44:10 AM PST by marktwain
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I have a hard copy!

The Webley is just a *bit* heavier than a 1911A1 - loaded, the .45 weighs just on 3 pounds, while the Webley is about 3 and a half loaded.

46 posted on 12/26/2022 8:41:33 AM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ecce Crucem Domini, fugite partes adversae. Vicit Leo de Tribu Iuda, Radix David, Alleluia!)
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To: marktwain
The best handgun .40 caliber cartridge is probably the 10mm with heavy bullets. It has a good reputation.

I happily agree with you as to the .40 cal., all the more so given your wide expertise, and also because I can handle a .40 in or out of a good holster, which isn't the case with some other large handguns.

Maybe I missed an earlier discussion of the topic, not involving handguns, but in the area often I hunt and fish I have found a certain degree of comfort with the small slugged shotguns, the Remington .870, for instance, or the Mossberg, which I haven't fired. The .870 is light and strong and really quite fast even in a sling...the truth is I can and have carried the the .870 AND a 10 mm with little trouble. At times I have carried the fully-loaded .870 and handed off the 10mm to a friend who is not as wary (scardee) as me.

I do appreciate all the observations, and would greatly welcome any comments on the slugged shotguns as well, if the topic arises. Thanks once more.

47 posted on 01/02/2023 9:02:44 AM PST by Fightin Whitey
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A shotgun with slugs is very effective against bears. The Remington 870 pump gun is one of the best, and is utilized all over North America and elsewhere for this purpose.

The only downside of the shotguns is they are long guns, they are heavier and much larger than handguns, so they are not as likely to be carried with you everywhere.

The .410 gauge slug may not penetrate as well as the other slugs, but it would likely get the job done.

20, 16, and 12 gauge buckshot and slugs appear to work very well.

48 posted on 01/02/2023 10:41:10 AM PST by marktwain
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