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Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Says CIA Murdered JFK (“successful coup d’etat.”)
Heavy.com ^ | 12/16/22 | Heavy

Posted on 12/17/2022 5:49:30 AM PST by C210N

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To: Boogieman

Like I said I don’t believe in coincidences, such as a lone gunman getting into police headquarters with a gun to kill the most wanted man in the world live on TV.


321 posted on 12/20/2022 1:46:55 PM PST by srmanuel
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To: Boogieman

The part that fascinates me during this period, was the lengthy film interview with Oswald. It’s very professionally done and Oswald is quite articulate but he doesn’t seem to believe in what he’s saying. He seems to be enjoying spoofing the interviewer and he is a good deal smarter than we have been told in the narrative of the “lone, crazed communist killer”.

It’s wildly incongruous that a supposed future assassin has this long interview on the record.


322 posted on 12/20/2022 5:12:51 PM PST by Chainmail (Harrassment, to be effective, must be continuous.)
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To: Boogieman
A plausible if unproven theory to account for the Mexican trip has it that a desperately unhappy Oswald wanted to return to the Communist fold, but preferred the warmer climate of Cuba, not the frost and snow ridden USSR. Supposedly, in Mexico, Oswald was told that he would not be given a visa to Cuba without demonstrating his worth as Castroite revolutionary to a degree more than a few leaflets, a street corner dustup, and a single TV debate in New Orleans offered.

Hence, the assassination, but in a broader scenario so provocative that it would inspire an official cover up because it would correctly alarm the wider intelligence and national security community. If there was evidence of Cuban and Soviet complicity in the murder of JFK, it would be a classic act of war. The American public would demand retribution, which would lead to a nuclear confrontation. Lyndon Johnson was known to warn of that if the secret of the assassination was revealed, that "Kennedy tried getting Castro, but Castro got him first."

Yet that claim raises the question if Oswald would really be so stupid as to think that he could kill JFK or even just shoot and miss and then be traded and sent to Cuba as if he were a middling Soviet spy who had earned a sunny retirement away from a dodgy Russian wife who would have been allowed to separately go home. To accept that as what Oswald wanted in turn poses issues as to Oswald's improbability as the assassin. He had at best a limited ability as a rifleman and no clear record of recent practice at even stationary targets.

Worse, there is no basis to think that Oswald had the necessary training or experience in hitting moving targets on a downward trajectory through the cover of intermittent leaves and branches. And the official story from the Warren Commission is that Oswald brought the rifle to the Texas School Book Depository on the day of the assassination dissembled and then put it back together shortly before shooting. That alone would tend to degrade the accuracy of Oswald's putative rifle as far as using the scope, leaving him to rely on the iron sights alone. I have never seen a recreation of the shooting that incorporated the scenario of a lightly trained shooter using iron sights on a rifle that had not been test fired after being disassembled.

It is possible that Oswald was a patsy as he claimed, having intended only the discovery of his rifle as a warning to Kennedy. In the event though, the assassination unfolds around Oswald, setting him to a panicked and unplanned flight from the scene.

I could go on, and on, but you get the point: Oswald as the assassin of JFK does not quite add up as to motive or the details of the shooting, with a similar pattern of doubt across almost every important element of the official story. My experience as a lawyer reviewing and arguing for the correctness of criminal convictions on appeal makes me deeply uncomfortable with that.

In valid convictions, the uncertainties diminish on close examination and a solid case emerges, doubts do not multiply as they do with the Kennedy assassination. Under today's standards, the withholding of documents and the poor chain of custody for key pieces of evidence would bar a conviction of Oswald on such a record. There is simply not proof against Oswald beyond a reasonable doubt.

323 posted on 12/20/2022 7:34:10 PM PST by Rockingham
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To: Rockingham

“He had at best a limited ability as a rifleman and no clear record of recent practice at even stationary targets.”

Well, he was a marine, and there actually is testimony that he was practicing at a firing range less than a week before the assassination. Plus there was the General Walker shooting, which I suppose counts as practice as well.


324 posted on 12/21/2022 7:43:24 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman

Showed what one motivated Marine and his rifle can do.


325 posted on 12/21/2022 7:45:21 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: C210N

the curb sewer grate is one of the stupider theories, misinformation to make other theories seem stupid too

The head shot clearly came from the grassy knoll, if you watch the zapruder film

They say Oswald could have done this from the window, because a sharpshooter was able to replicate it, but they fail to mention that out of 7 (I think) sharpshooters that tried, only ONE was able to do it- and that was after 17 previous unsuccessful attempts.

The zapruder film, ‘missing’ shots (bullet hitting curb, bullet through the front window), AND the eyewitness who heard the shot go past his head, are absolute proof of more than one shooter

There was also a SECOND ‘warren commission’ report that concluded there was probably a conspiracy and at least one other shooter... why is that never mentioned?


326 posted on 12/21/2022 8:01:54 AM PST by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing obamacare is worse than obamacare its ? And the ambassador to Ukraineelf)
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To: Rockingham
Also likely that this was needed to construct a back-up story of Soviet involvement in case the LHO as the lone nut assassin story did not work.

Plots of this magnitude have to have back-up plans for the back-up plans.

327 posted on 12/21/2022 10:36:56 AM PST by Vigilanteman (The politicized state destroys aspects of civil society, human kindness and private charity.)
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To: Boogieman

It has also been suggested that Oswald practiced his marksmanship in a nearby riverbed, which was apparently often done at the time. The problem though is that shooting at a moving target is a much harder proposition and was beyond Oswald’s training.


328 posted on 12/21/2022 8:07:41 PM PST by Rockingham
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To: Vigilanteman
Quite true. A capable conspiracy would engineer multiple stories to confuse and exhaust investigators and the public. In addition, the Warren Commission was deeply compromised by its reliance on the work of the FBI and a directive from the Department of Justice and LBJ to the effect that Oswald was and was to be proven a lone nut assassin.

Indeed, the lone nut assassin story line is so effective that it worked as the official story as to not just Oswald, but also Jack Ruby in killing Oswald. And it was used again as to the murders of Robert Kennedy and Martin Luther King.

329 posted on 12/21/2022 8:21:22 PM PST by Rockingham
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To: Rockingham

“The problem though is that shooting at a moving target is a much harder proposition and was beyond Oswald’s training.”

Says who? You know Oswald was training with a rifle from age 15 at least, right? How many guys from Louisiana do you think have never gone hunting and couldn’t shoot a moving target?


330 posted on 12/22/2022 7:41:16 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman
Oswald grew up as a city boy in New Orleans, not in rural Louisiana. His rifle scores from the Marines are available. They show him qualifying at a basic level -- and only against stationary targets. There are no accounts of Oswald being a hunter, except for membership in a local hunting club in the USSR. Oswald was described by fellow members there as a poor shot and careless in his gun handling.

When one of Oswald's superior officers in the Marines learned of his supposed role in the JFK assassination, he was shocked and disbelieved it because he thought that Oswald lacked the skill and training for such difficult shots.

Similarly, in 1987, former U.S. Marine Corps sniper Craig Roberts, a Vietnam war veteran, went to the 6th floor of the Texas School Book Depository and looked from the putative sniper position. He knew immediately that the Warren Commission's findings were implausible. Roberts regarded it as impossible that Oswald, acting alone, could have fired from that position three shots in 5.6 seconds with an old, obsolete, and poorly fitted bolt-action rifle.

Paraffin tests administered in Dallas soon after Oswald was arrested showed metallic residues associated with firing a gun on Oswald's hands but not on his cheek, even when subjected to a sophisticated analysis that required a nuclear reactor. The best explanation for this is contamination on Oswald's hands or that, as claimed, he fired his revolver and killed Officer Tippet.

No matter what Oswald's level of skill with a rifle was, the lack of metallic residues on Oswald's cheek is strong forensic evidence that he did not fire a rifle on the day of the assassination. Notably, it took a lawsuit to pry the negative results from the FBI, which had not forwarded the written report to the Warren Commission.

331 posted on 12/22/2022 10:48:51 AM PST by Rockingham
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To: Rockingham

Point of View in a Meme:

https://twitter.com/Cernovich/status/1607509908358066176


332 posted on 12/26/2022 5:30:06 PM PST by Texan4Life
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