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[Wrong. The evidence that came out is that most of the arms, across the board, the US has given Ukraine has been top of the line.

I’ve seen the threads from the neocons here attesting to that.]


Which threads? We are giving them Humvees and M113’s which are far from state-of-the-art. M113’s were introduced in 1960. Javelins were introduced almost 30 years ago. HARM’s are almost 40 years old.

The contrast is huge. The Russians gave the Koreans and the Chinese MiG-15’s, T-34’s, which were less than a decade old at the time of the Korean War. Ditto with North Vietnam, during which the VPAF got MiG-17’s, MiG-19’s and MiG-21’s, which ranged from a decade old to 20 years at worst. We haven’t given the Ukrainians a single US jet fighter. We have over 3,000 F-16’s in the junkyard.


12 posted on 11/27/2022 10:10:32 PM PST by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room)
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To: Zhang Fei

I’m hoping you aren’t saying the learning curve to fly a F-16 is the same as a first generation MIG?


14 posted on 11/28/2022 5:02:49 AM PST by Trinity5
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