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To: Golden Eagle
So Trump is hugely damaging DeSantis and Youngkin within the ranks of the Trump diehards, some of which would actually be needed to ever win a general election, even if DeSantis or Youngkin don't even run until 2028.

Fair point, but that was inevitable anyway if DeSantis or Youngkin chooses to run against Trump. I suppose there's a chance that Trump will play the "good sport" and would endorse DeSantis or Youngkin in the general elections, but they obviously can't count on that.

But I do think that Trump so clearly sabotaging himself will lead to fewer Trump supporters sitting home in the general election. It would be worse if Trump wasn't inflicting wounds on himself, and they had to run negative campaigns against him. This way, they can at least just talk about their own visions, and let his own conduct make the necessary contrasts. As is apparent on here, there are some people who were pretty much in Trump's corner who have flipped because of this.

134 posted on 11/12/2022 10:03:17 AM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin
there are some people who were pretty much in Trump's corner who have flipped because of this.

That's true, but I'm not sure how many of those flippers will stick. I know, because I have gone through a lot of back and forth myself, and it has been a painful emotional experience to realize that Trump is often doing more harm than good, at least in my mind when compared to alternatives like DeSantis.

So my criticisms of Trump are not designed to "bring him down" as I'm not that black or white, unless we're talking Republicans v. Democrats, and Trump very well may be our best chance to win in 24. I'm just not convinced of that, and don't think anyone else should be at this point either. We should all keep an open mind, and if/when the time comes to criticize DeSantis, I won't see him as above reproach, either. But right now all I see out of DeSantis is good, and what I see out of Trump is not so good, although I reserve final judgement all the way until November 24, as should everyone. Thanks.

137 posted on 11/12/2022 10:22:30 AM PST by Golden Eagle ( What's in YOUR injection? )
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