I’m sure you’re anxious to turn the page on both the mysterious destruction of the pipelines *and* the accusations of the “dirty bomb”.
I’ll agree with you on one thing. If they have it they should show it. (Not that people like you won’t dismiss it)
Keep in mind, this is the same UN Security Counsel that apparently has forgotten all about Minsk II, as well as the comments they all made about it. Here they are.
Unanimously Adopting Resolution 2202 (2015), Security Council Calls on Parties to Implement Accords Aimed at Peaceful Settlement in Eastern Ukraine
https://press.un.org/en/2015/sc11785.doc.htm
“Expressing the Security Council’s grave concern at the tragic events and violence in eastern regions of Ukraine, the 15-member body today unanimously adopted a resolution endorsing last week’s ceasefire agreement.”
“I’m sure you’re anxious to turn the page on both the mysterious destruction of the pipelines *and* the accusations of the ‘dirty bomb’.”
Don’t project onto me your discomfort with those topics.
Unlike you, I want the TRUTH of both. And I don’t much care where the TRUTH ends up.
“I’ll agree with you on one thing. If they have it they should show it. (Not that people like you won’t dismiss it)”
Good. As to the parenthetical: Rushing to judgment, are you? You must feel right at home in the Court of Travis McGee. Me? I want the facts. I want the truth. I won’t condemn based on hearsay, innuendo, and wishful thinking.
“Keep in mind, this is the same UN Security Counsel that apparently has forgotten all about Minsk II, as well as the comments they all made about it. Here they are.”
Well, that would be UN Security COUNCIL, not COUNSEL.
In any event, let’s go back to the beginning of the matter, from which all else stems: The Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances of 1994 in which Russia, the US, and the UK agreed to guarantee to Ukraine, Belarus, and Kazakhstan the following:
1. Respect the signatory’s independence and sovereignty in the existing borders.
2. Refrain from the threat or the use of force against the signatory.
3. Refrain from economic coercion designed to subordinate to their own interest the exercise by the signatory of the rights inherent in its sovereignty and thus to secure advantages of any kind.
4. Seek immediate Security Council action to provide assistance to the signatory if they “should become a victim of an act of aggression or an object of a threat of aggression in which nuclear weapons are used”.
5. Refrain from the use of nuclear arms against the signatory.
6. Consult with one another if questions arise regarding those commitments.
Russia violated #1 and #2 in 2014 with the seizure and occupation of Crimea and the introduction of Russian troops into eastern Ukraine. Russia has been in violation of #3 since 2014. No nukes have been used thus far so #4 and #5 are not at issue. Russia has been in violation of #6 since 2014.
This was BEFORE the Minsk Agreements of late 2014 and early 2015. And even the drafter of the Minsk Agreements concluded they were unworkable, and open to various interpretations, and they fell apart.
But, the initial aggressor, the initial catalyst for all the turmoil is clearly Russia.