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To: whyilovetexas111
Feels like Vietnam 2.0 to me - but far worse.

It is Vietnam 2.0 - except this time the Russians, not the Americans, are the occupying army and the Ukrainians are much better armed and organized than the Vietnamese ever were.

14 posted on 10/15/2022 8:14:56 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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[It is Vietnam 2.0 - except this time the Russians, not the Americans, are the occupying army and the Ukrainians are much better armed and organized than the Vietnamese ever were.]


Actually, the Ukrainians are less well-armed* but much better organized than the NVA. But then the Russians are also less well-armed and less organized than the US. And the Russians lack a large and well-motivated local ally - South Vietnam held up for 2 years after the withdrawal of US troops, losing 250K men in a decade of war. The occupied Ukrainian territories would collapse overnight if Russian troops withdrew.

But ultimately, reading this essay is a waste of time. The Charles Lindberghs of our time, the enablers of foreign imperialist warmongers, Rand Paul and the Koch Brothers**, are behind Defense Priorities Institute. The people there are pamphleteers and polemicists promoting aggrandizement and territorial gain for the world’s tyrannies, not intellectuals in a search of truth. A more accurate though less mellifluous name would be Charles Lindbergh Institute.

* Russia provided late model jet fighters, tanks, artillery and antitank weaponry to North Vietnam. With the exception of MLRS launchers and ATGM’S, almost no current equipment is being provided to Ukraine.

** The Koch Brothers have financial interests abroad and are aggressive lobbyists for those interests, being almost the last American firm to depart Russia despite significant pressure from US public opinion.

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/koch-industries-russia-ukraine-business/#app

The Koch brothers not only boycotted Trump’s campaigns, they are heavy funders of his critics. They understand that Trump’s attitude towards America’s enemies is to flatter them while smacking them with a two by four. That clashes with the Kochs’ China and Russia First, free trade, open borders beliefs.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-koch/powerful-koch-brothers-rebuff-big-donors-calls-to-back-trump-for-white-house-idUSKCN10C2W8

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/09/29/2020-presidential-election-why-koch-network-wont-help-trumps-bid.html

https://www.npr.org/2018/05/17/611798012/breaking-with-trumps-gop-koch-brothers-praise-democrats-on-immigration

https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/04/politics/koch-brothers-campaign-trump-tariffs-trade/index.html


44 posted on 10/15/2022 9:54:28 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room)
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