[cherry]

we need to STOP participating in the elites as mush as we can...

no pro sports, no movies, no restaurants, no compulsive shopping, no magazines, no newspapers, no concerts, no new cars....no nothing...

live minimally.

[central_va]

no pro sports, no movies, no restaurants, no compulsive shopping, no magazines, no newspapers, no concerts, no new cars....no nothing...

Except for a few annual golf outings, I do do that.