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Looks like the US had the only plane in the area of the Nord Stream Pipeline, and radar tracking information seems to capture release of weapons where the P-8 suddenly rises upwards due to the sudden weight loss.

Sound persuasive to me.

1 posted on 10/02/2022 11:47:20 AM PDT by Fractal Trader
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I have no idea, but will monitor the responses of those who can more credibly comment.


2 posted on 10/02/2022 11:52:30 AM PDT by neverevergiveup
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sudden weight loss...lol


3 posted on 10/02/2022 11:53:05 AM PDT by one guy in new jersey
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Let’s HOPE FOR AN HONEST INVESTIGATION to commence now. It will be conducted by SWEDEN AND DENMARK. They need to get their divers down to the CRIME SCENES ASAP and to protect those crime scenes.

They need to keep the FBI AND OTHER AMERICAN “INVESTIGATORS” far away from the investigation. In case you can’t tell I consider the AMERICAN (i.e., Biden administration) GOVERNMENT THE PRIME SUSPECT followed closely by the POLISH government.

With the newly elected Swedish “center right” government assuming power, I have more hope for the integrity of the investigation than if the previous leftist government had remained in power.


4 posted on 10/02/2022 11:57:55 AM PDT by House Atreides (I’m now ULTRA-MAGA-PRO-MAX)
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Biden said ...

you mean the guy who can only read what’s written on a teleprompter, or goes so far of script that he’s unintelligible, that Biden?


5 posted on 10/02/2022 11:58:39 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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“in which the US representative did not confirm nor deny it and didn’t answer the question, but instead took an offensive posture”

Did NOT deny it.


6 posted on 10/02/2022 11:59:53 AM PDT by crz
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Putin’s Playbook: Russia’s Secret Plan to Defeat America
by Rebekah Koffler | Jul 27, 2021 - its on amazon

She detailed on TV his motivation, plans and previous actions:

1 point - NS2 was never operational;
2 point - NS1 was shut off because of the war and claimed needed repairs;
3 point - Both NS pipelines were no longer of value to Russia;
4 point - Russia has the covert tech and means to destroy them;
5 point - the Siberia-China pipeline has made up the ‘lost’ revenue and more.


If that lame Russian propaganda argument sounds persuasive, then there is no hope for you.


7 posted on 10/02/2022 12:00:47 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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K.T.Mcfarland stated on Newsmax That it was Putin who sabotaged the line and interviewer swallowed it line, hook and sinker.
Americans are good, Russians are bad. Ergo, Putin did it.
Sheesh folks, it’s not complicated.


8 posted on 10/02/2022 12:07:00 PM PDT by 353FMG (Secretly practicing my Putin swagger..)
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10 posted on 10/02/2022 12:11:09 PM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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K.T.Mcfarland stated on Newsmax That it was Putin who sabotaged the line and interviewer swallowed it line, hook and sinker.
Americans are good, Russians are bad. Ergo, Putin did it.
Sheesh folks, it’s not complicated.


11 posted on 10/02/2022 12:11:30 PM PDT by 353FMG (Secretly practicing my Putin swagger..)
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The MH-60S will utilize the BAE Systems Archerfish remotely operated vehicle (ROV) to seek out and destroy naval mines from the air.

Selected as a concept in 2003 by the Navy as part of the Airborne Mine Neutralization System (AMNS) program and developed since 2007, the Archerfish is dropped into the water from its launch cradle, where its human operator remotely guides it down towards the mine using a fiber optics communications cable that leads back up to the helicopter. Using sonar and low-light video, it locates the mine, and is then instructed to shoot a shaped charge explosive to detonate it.

BAE was awarded a contract to build and deliver the ROVs in April 2016.

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15 posted on 10/02/2022 12:15:35 PM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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Yes, this is very persuasive. Sebastion Gorka was on War Room a few days ago & made a good case for why it was probably Russia sabotaging their own pipeline. But that was theory, & this seems to have more corroborative evidence.


17 posted on 10/02/2022 12:16:44 PM PDT by Twotone (While one may vote oneself into socialism one has to shoot oneself out of it.)
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FYI.


19 posted on 10/02/2022 12:16:48 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Anyone, who can make you believe in absurdities, can make you commit atrocities!!" ~ (Voltaire)!, )
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If it looks like a false flag event, walks like a false flag event, smells like a false flag event, it must be the illegitimate DC Biden Junta.


20 posted on 10/02/2022 12:17:50 PM PDT by hardspunned (former GOP globalist stooge)
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22 posted on 10/02/2022 12:17:58 PM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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Two people in the Biden Junta said on video that they were going to do this. Add in the US military presence at the point of rupture, along with time correlated seismic evidence, then Occam's razor plainly points to only one conclusion: the Biden Junta.

This illegal Junta running the White House has caused untold misery for people worldwide. Biden recklessness and its "global warming" fantasy have unleashed a stack of dominoes destroying wealth, raising energy prices, endangering crops, destroying heating fuel stocks, sent food prices soaring. This same Junta has morphed our legal institutions into its own Stasi Gestapo to quell dissent.

And it all started with a stolen election.

27 posted on 10/02/2022 12:22:00 PM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie (LORD, grant thy people grace to withstand the temptations of the world, the flesh, and the devil.)
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Occam’s razor: The US did this.

Next question: Which NATO nations approved this?

Ramifications: The US can’t be accused of directly “killing” people or the EU economy, because the EU already had chosen suicide, by shutting down the gas. The US has only severely reduced chances to negotiate between EU and Russia.

Unknowns: What will Populist-elected euro pols and the pitchfork-and-torches crowds do when everyone realizes Biden’s evil chicanery?


55 posted on 10/02/2022 2:36:00 PM PDT by ReaganGeneration2
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The P8 is an ASW aircraft, so explain how an ASW aircraft was capable of dropping a torpedo or a depth charge that would be near enough to the pipelines to cause damage.

The other distinct possibility is that an ASW aircraft such as the P8 (and also some ASW copters from USS Kearsarge) were in the area tracking one or more Russian submarines.

56 posted on 10/02/2022 2:56:24 PM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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NATO is charged to protect NATO countries and the seas (Baltic Sea) around the EU

Somehow, NATO missed this plane??


62 posted on 10/02/2022 3:57:14 PM PDT by Steven Tyler
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great article, thanx


67 posted on 10/02/2022 4:20:21 PM PDT by norsky ( <P><img src=" "width=400"></img> <P> <a href= > </a>)
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