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Setback for Trump Legal Team as Appeals Court Rules DOJ Can Comb Through Classified Docs
Red State ^ | 09/21/2022 | Bob Hoge

Posted on 09/21/2022 8:45:48 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 09/21/2022 8:45:48 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

I think Trump needs better lawyers.

I assume they asked for an immediate stay while they appeal? Or did they drop that ball, too, like when they waited 10(?) days to ask for a Special Master?


2 posted on 09/21/2022 8:50:33 PM PDT by Basket_of_Deplorables (Putin is behaving rationally.The war is on Biden and Obama. )
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To: SeekAndFind

I always love a tweet from Meathead! My goodness what an ass he is.


3 posted on 09/21/2022 8:50:48 PM PDT by Brandonmark (Made America Great Again! 11.08.2016 - A DAY OF RENEWAL is a )
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To: SeekAndFind

The documents weren’t classified. Trump de-classified them while still POTUS.


4 posted on 09/21/2022 8:51:36 PM PDT by Signalman
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To: SeekAndFind

From twitter:

(Article III Project)
🇺🇸 Mike Davis 🇺🇸
@mrddmia
Trump’s legal team should do what they said they would do:

File an amended Rule 41(g) motion under the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure.

Make these legal arguments.

Get back his 11,000 records.

(Just like Clinton kept his personal copy of his highly classified recordings.)
8:29 PM · Sep 21, 2022
·Twitter Web App


5 posted on 09/21/2022 8:52:45 PM PDT by sheikdetailfeather
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To: SeekAndFind

From twitter:

(Article III Project)
🇺🇸 Mike Davis 🇺🇸
@mrddmia
Trump’s legal team should do what they said they would do:

File an amended Rule 41(g) motion under the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure.

Make these legal arguments.

Get back his 11,000 records.

(Just like Clinton kept his personal copy of his highly classified recordings.)
8:29 PM · Sep 21, 2022
·Twitter Web App


6 posted on 09/21/2022 8:52:45 PM PDT by sheikdetailfeather
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To: SeekAndFind

The Judges think that a declassified document is still a problem?

How so?

It’s declassified. Ipso facto, in the public domain.

Only one individual has that plenary power, and it isn’t a panel of rat judges.

The guy they served a general warrant on.


7 posted on 09/21/2022 8:53:40 PM PDT by Regulator (It's fraud, Jim)
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To: Signalman

He says this now, but what proof is there?


8 posted on 09/21/2022 8:56:18 PM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14/12 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15/12 - 1030am - Obama team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: sheikdetailfeather

Wouldn’t you request en banc review by full court first?


9 posted on 09/21/2022 8:58:26 PM PDT by Rowdyone (Vigilence)
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To: PghBaldy

Just the act of moving them declassified them. Oh, yes, it’s true.

- Mark Levin

Trump also reiterated this point tonight on Fox.


10 posted on 09/21/2022 9:00:07 PM PDT by conservative98
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To: Basket_of_Deplorables
I think Trump needs better lawyers.

You mean, the better lawyers whose lives won't be destroyed by the Left, the Democrats and their Media if they dare to work for Trump?

These people would have threatened and destroyed John Adams had he had the temerity to work for Orange Man Bad.

11 posted on 09/21/2022 9:04:56 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: PghBaldy

Doesn’t need proof. He can wave his hand over the document and, poof, they’re declassified. No written document with his signature is required. He can say it to himself with no one present. They’re de-classified. He’s the only person in the nation that has that power.

There is no set protocol.

Hillary Clinton couldn’t do it. Trump could.


12 posted on 09/21/2022 9:06:18 PM PDT by Signalman
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To: Rowdyone

I don’t think so, but I am not a legal expert. Mike Davis is on Bannon and Fox a lot and is great. Here is more from twitter:

🇺🇸 Mike Davis 🇺🇸
@mrddmia
·
3h
11th Circuit didn’t address these key legal points.

Again, under Presidential Records Act:

1. Records “received” by the President are presidential records

2. He determines what are “personal”

2. Former Presidents get unfettered access to their records

Including classified.


13 posted on 09/21/2022 9:07:55 PM PDT by sheikdetailfeather
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To: SeekAndFind

my understanding was that the RATS have ALREADY gone thru them, and this is to determine if they are legally his and not actionable...


14 posted on 09/21/2022 9:09:25 PM PDT by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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To: sheikdetailfeather

The 11th’s decision is a partial stay of the lower court’s order.

https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000183-625b-da48-a3e3-e2ff83050000

>>We stress the limited nature of our review: this matter comes to us on a motion for a partial stay pending appeal. We cannot (and do not) decide the merits of this case. We decide only the traditional equitable considerations, including whether the United States has shown a substantial likelihood of prevailing on the merits, the harm each party might suffer from a stay, and where the public interest lies.

For the reasons we explain below, we grant the United States’s motion for a partial stay pending appeal.


15 posted on 09/21/2022 9:09:48 PM PDT by FarCenter
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To: SeekAndFind

The 11th Circuit Court of Appeals has declared the 4th Amendment to be unconstitutional.


16 posted on 09/21/2022 9:16:12 PM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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>> For our part, we cannot discern why Plaintiff would have an
individual interest in or need for any of the one-hundred documents with classification markings. Classified documents are
marked to show they are classified, for instance, with their classification level. Classified National Security Information, Exec. Order
No. 13,526, § 1.6, 3 C.F.R. 298, 301 (2009 Comp.), reprinted in 50
U.S.C. § 3161 app. at 290–301. They are “owned by, produced by
or for, or . . . under the control of the United States Government.”
Id. § 1.1. And they include information the “unauthorized disclosure [of which] could reasonably be expected to cause identifiable
or describable damage to the national security.” Id. § 1.4. For this
reason, a person may have access to classified information only if,
among other requirements, he “has a need-to-know the information.” Id. § 4.1(a)(3). This requirement pertains equally to former Presidents, unless the current administration, in its discretion,
chooses to waive that requirement. Id. § 4.4(3).

Plaintiff has not even attempted to show that he has a need
to know the information contained in the classified documents.
Nor has he established that the current administration has waived
that requirement for these documents. And even if he had, that, in
and of itself, would not explain why Plaintiff has an individual interest in the classified documents.


17 posted on 09/21/2022 9:19:18 PM PDT by FarCenter
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To: SeekAndFind

The 11th circuit was very conservative during the attempted election steal of 2000. The deep state set out to change that and they succeeded in infiltrating and corrupting it. The 9th circuit may actually be more conservative at this point.


18 posted on 09/21/2022 9:43:25 PM PDT by Revel
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To: SeekAndFind

Meathead should be used for calling a private citizen a Career criminal. That would be one defamation trial I would love to see on Court TV.


19 posted on 09/21/2022 9:46:46 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper (Figures )
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To: SeekAndFind

Between the Appeals Court finding, the Dearie fiasco, the Lititia James ridiculous Civil case, it’s a wonder President Trump maintains his sanity.

WTH,did the Appeals court mean in giving them the right to go ahead with the documents.

I am beginning to question all judges, except Judge Cannon, who appears to be the ONLY JUDGE WITH A SENSE OF JUSTICE AND THE INTELLIGENCE TO EXPRESS IT.

SAD DAY.


20 posted on 09/21/2022 9:56:14 PM PDT by Maris Crane
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