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Attack On Europe: Documenting Russian Equipment Losses During The 2022 Russian Invasion Of Ukraine
ORYX ^ | Since February 24, 2022 and daily | ORYX

Posted on 09/19/2022 8:21:23 AM PDT by SpeedyInTexas

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To: MeganC

“‘They won’t invade, will they?’ Fears rise in Russian city that Ukraine war could cross border

As Putin’s forces are pushed back to where they came from, there is growing unease in the city of Belgorod”

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/sep/18/ukraine-war-cross-border-russia-putin-belgorod?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other


21 posted on 09/19/2022 11:34:41 AM PDT by SpeedyInTexas (The Only Good RuZZian is a Dead RuZZian)
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To: SpeedyInTexas

In real news today:

‘The real battle is happening in Bakhmut. US searches for second front’
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsowbRYLqmA


22 posted on 09/19/2022 12:01:39 PM PDT by cranked
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“Ukrainian air defenses have shot down at least 55 Russian warplanes since the start of the war in late February, a U.S. general said Monday, saying the huge losses are a major reason Russian fighter planes and bombers have not played much of a role in the conflict.

Ukrainians took down those planes using older Russian-made air defenses, forcing the Russians to severely limit the sorties they flew near Ukrainian positions. The shootdown also cut Russian ground forces off from the kind of air support they would need to take and hold territory, Air Forces in Europe and Africa commander Gen. James Hecker told reporters at the annual Air Force Association conference.

That lack of protection from the sky has been one of the big surprises of the war, as most analysts expected Russia to quickly establish dominance over Ukraine’s airspace in the early days of the invasion. That failure allowed the Ukrainian air force to regroup and survive mostly intact. Hecker estimated that Ukraine retains about 80 percent of its air force, seven months into the war.

At the Ukraine Defense Contact Group meeting at Ramstein Air Base in Germany this month, one of the “big asks” from the Ukrainians was more SA-10 and SA-11 air defense systems in order to fend off Russian drones and aircraft, Hecker said.

The U.S. doesn’t produce or use the missiles, so the onus is on European allies to supply them to Kyiv.

One thing that won’t likely make its way to Ukraine soon is the U.S.-made F-16 fighter plane, which Hecker said wouldn’t arrive for two to three years after any political decision was made to send them, due to training and logistical issues. The general wouldn’t count sending F-16s out, however, saying “folks are starting to think more long term” in how to equip Ukraine for a war he said will likely last years, not months. POLITICO reported last week that officials are conducting early discussions over whether to send the jets to Ukraine, along with Patriot missile batteries.

But the aid is all contingent on decisions made by politicians in Washington and across the capitals of Europe, leading to delays in some weapons the Ukrainians have for months insisted are critical for their survival. There is increasing pressure on Germany in particular to allow third-party countries to send German-made Leopard tanks and artillery systems to Ukraine, something Berlin has so far refused to do.

There’s a similar trepidation within the White House, which is declining to send longer-range missiles for the High Mobility Artillery Rocket Systems, for fear Ukraine would begin hitting targets inside Russia. Current missiles can travel about 50 miles, as opposed to the 180 mile range of the missiles Ukraine has been clamoring for.

Those self-imposed curbs on aid have frustrated Kyiv and others who want to more quickly and fully equip Ukraine to hit Russian forces harder. For now at least, “Ukraine has what they need to survive and fight and try to protect their sovereign country without turning this into World War III,” Hecker said.

The general did acknowledge that the U.S. is providing Ukraine “time sensitive” intelligence to Ukraine, but insisted that the Americans are not picking targets for them.

Specifically, the U.S. passed on information about the location of Russian supply depots and logistics hubs inside Ukraine, Hecker said. “We would pass on where some of this equipment was, and then it was up to them whether they wanted to target it or not,” he said.

In the early days of the war Ukrainian forces were having a hard time hitting those targets, which were behind the front lines and out of range of much of their artillery. “But then they got HIMARS,” he said.”


23 posted on 09/19/2022 12:55:29 PM PDT by SpeedyInTexas (The Only Good RuZZian is a Dead RuZZian)
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I would hope that the Ukrainians don’t invade Russia too much. I can understand doing raids but if they took any territory they’d be just as bad as the Russians.


24 posted on 09/19/2022 2:33:40 PM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: cranked
Pro-Russian social media channels and Alexander Mercouris in particular have are obsessed with Russia capturing Bakhmut. Since early August Mercouris has posted several videos saying the Russians are closing/fighting/encircling Bakhmut. For the last two months, other than shelling the city and skirmishes Russia is getting nowhere fast.
25 posted on 09/19/2022 4:54:12 PM PDT by Widget Jr (🇺🇦 Sláva Ukrayíni 🇺🇦 - Just say no to CCCP 2.0)
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To: SpeedyInTexas; dangus
#11 and #17. What makes Oryx useful is that as far as is known, they are making a good faith effort to get information, get some documentation, and their consistency over time.

They have consistently shown Russia having significantly greater losses than Ukraine, between 3 to 4:1. Assuming the Oryx average is 3.5:1, and has recorded 80% the Russian and 50% the Ukrainian losses, Russia is still at a 2.2:1 loss ratio in equipment.

Even without the hard numbers and a lot of gray areas for both sides, that creates a grim long term picture for Russia.

26 posted on 09/19/2022 5:34:52 PM PDT by Widget Jr (🇺🇦 Sláva Ukrayíni 🇺🇦 - Just say no to CCCP 2.0)
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