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Vaccines are taking an average of 5 months to kill people == Steve Kirsch
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Posted on 09/01/2022 1:32:33 AM PDT by dennisw

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To: gas_dr

Correct! Experimental mRNA gene therapy has to be good for you. Safe and effective!


61 posted on 09/01/2022 6:07:38 AM PDT by Theophilus 7
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To: David Chase

Steve Kirsch got two vaxxxes and that is all. Then he started encountering people who told him about friends and relatives who died or were injured by vaxxxes. Then he started looking into the Covid vaxxxes.

He has been promoting Republican Senator Rob Johnson of Wisconsin, who is anti-vaxxx now and very anti-Fauci. Telling people to donate to Rob. Yes, Steve Kirsch voted for Hillary in 2016 and maybe donated.


62 posted on 09/01/2022 6:10:20 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: MayflowerMadam

Insurance companies should raise rates only for their inoculated insureds. Why should we un-vaxed subsidize stupid people?

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

The same way YOU should be paying the student loans for OTHERS that won’t or can’t .... diversity degrees, women’s studies, political science ... all those hard core degrees that result in fabulous jobs and commensurate pay. If you are a plumber, electrician, HVAC, carpenter or other “trade” that makes good money without a college degree and especially if you took advantage of an apprentice or internship where your education was ‘free’ and you came out of that program with no debt & a great job, then even MORE SO, you should be paying for those that didn’t have the sense to do what you did.

See? that’s how it works these days /MAJOR, MAJOR SARCASM


63 posted on 09/01/2022 6:10:43 AM PDT by Qiviut (The unvaccinated, the chosen of the invisible ark .... (author unknown))
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To: JudyinCanada

Peripheral neuropathy can cause debilitating pain, at a minimum to prevent sleep. It is but one effect of the jabs.

Look up ‘covid vaccine side effects +Peripheral neuropathy’ without the quotes.

Think about it.


64 posted on 09/01/2022 6:10:49 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: usafa92

—> to say people are dropping dead at 5 months post vaccine is simply not true.

1. On average - bell shaped curve

2. Your test is subjective - though I know 5 so far plus aggressive cancers, afib, epileptic seizures, etc


65 posted on 09/01/2022 6:13:43 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything. )
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To: DoodleBob

Great post! And informative (becoming a rarity on FR lately).

I see we are in agreement. I am not vaccinated myself. I am firmly against mandates. There are legitimate reasons to be concerned about the vaccines, including unknown long-term effects, elevated risk for myocarditis, especially in young males (the smallpox vaccines administered to our military back around 2003 sadly also carried elevated risk for myocarditis), indications there may be slightly elevated risk for Shingles outbreak, etc.

All these unfounded claims in these clickbait grifter blogs obscure the real concerns and make those of us in the anti-mandate side look foolish. And cry wolf too many times ...

We need truth and facts and proof on our side in this fight, not easily disproved claims that will be laughed out of court and the public square.

Whether to get the Covid vaccine is a personal and private decision and others’ decisions are none of my beeswax — or the government’s.

Someone here asked me how I could be unvaccinated yet say there are valid reasons some of us choose to get vaccinated. (As if there is a conflict there.) Here’s my reply:


I had a whopping bad case of Covid in February of 2020, and thus natural immunity that lasted until Omicron came along. I also did not personally have conditions that put me at increased risk for severe illness or death from Covid if I caught it again (not elderly, not obese, no diabetes, not taking any drugs that suppressed my immune system, not working at a checkout stand, etc). My risk/benefit ratio, plus my life situation, was in favor of my foregoing vaccination. If I had a different health profile and no natural immunity, I may well have chosen vaccination.

Others have calculated their risk/benefit ratios differently based on their own age/health condition/life situation, perhaps with the help of a trusted doctor — and I respect that their reasons for getting the vaccine may well have been perfectly valid. I am not going to judge anyone’s private, personal decision on whether to get vaccinated or not.

President Trump and our own beloved JimRob are vaccinated. Both are smart, knowledgeable men and I trust they made the right decision for themselves. Some here chose not to get vaccinated for their own personal and private reasons. I trust they made the right decision for themselves and respect that, too.

Either way, it’s really none of my business. Nor any business of the government’s. It’s neither my affair nor the government’s to go nosing about in other people’s personal private health decisions, let alone dictate them.

https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4088729/posts?page=15#15


The lockdowns have done massive damage in terms of human suffering and death, physical, mental and spiritual suffering, societal damage, economic damage. The damage done to children is especially maddening, yet the Dems seem to be targeting them with more vaccine and mask mandates in some cities as school starts up again. It’s insane.

The supply chain problems (an artifact of lockdowns and our reliance of imports from China) have resulted in shortages of essential goods (including pharmaceutical ingredients) and critical medical supplies.


66 posted on 09/01/2022 6:14:39 AM PDT by CatHerd (Whoever said "All's fair in love and war" probably never participated in either.)
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To: logi_cal869

Interesting info....

https://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/4089959/posts?page=5#5


67 posted on 09/01/2022 6:15:52 AM PDT by Jane Long (What we were told was a “conspiracy theory” in 2020 is now fact. 🙏🏻 Ps 33:12)
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To: Qiviut

“YOU should be paying the student loans for OTHERS that won’t or can’t .... diversity degrees, women’s studies,”

At FR we joked about those 100% crap degrees, BUT you know what. Many of those who got “studies” degrees are now university administrators. Trough feeders. Feeding at the .edu trough and the state government troughs.


68 posted on 09/01/2022 6:15:57 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: OKSooner

SPOT ON, this is nuts. The VAX SHILLs come out of the woodwork and belittle the unvaxxed. The UNVAXXED detest the VAX SHILLS.

Almost 2 years ago I suggested that this entire Covid Hysteria was nothing more than the release of a BINARY Bio-Weapon. Was it CCP, WEF, KAOS, SPECTER, FBI/CIA/NIH/CDC pick any criminal group.

Notice the following
1. HUGE push to get EVERYBODY vaxxed.
2. Covid survival rate well above 96%, except for old & sick.
3. YES, the Covid VAX has been more reactive than other VAX yet still was being distributed. Not pulled for safety.
4. Natural immunity was downplayed if not ridiculed.
5. If you had Covid and survived, CDC still wants you VAXXED.

Why is it so damned important to get their VAX into your body?

Now, for a Binary Bio-Weapon to work the two components MUST come together. BOTH safe on their own and only become deadly when combined. Kind of like how Epoxy works. It takes 2 parts

I suggested that Covid was Part 1 and the VAX was Part 2

So, we know the VAX DOES NOT prevent Covid. It may reduce severity, but you still get Covid with the VAX. If this is all a Bio-Weapon, and you had Covid, you now have both components in your body. There is evidence that the unvaxxed and who survived Covid may be doing better than those Vaxxed and survived Covid. As a Bio_Weapon, Covid/VAX for the most part is a bust. Granted it kills, but kills inconsistently.

In my opinion those who are Vaxxed and Boosted and still get Covid are willingly increasing the concentration of this Bio-Weapon into their body and at some point it will kill them. This Bio-Weapon is like poison, keep drinking enough of it and it will eventually kill you.

I may be totally wrong and my theory is nothing more than a good plot for a spy movie. However, enough things just plain do not add up.

My biggest problem is they say the only way forward is the VAX. With natural immunity, “THEY” still want you Vaxxed, WHY?


69 posted on 09/01/2022 6:28:16 AM PDT by OHPatriot (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: DoodleBob

Oh, and speaking of anecdotal evidence and sudden deaths, back in the early 1970s, the dentist in his early 30s —fit and healthy, great tennis player — who lived a few houses down the street suddenly keeled over dead from a heart attack, leaving behind his wife and the young children. His widow was in such shock and grief she could barely function for over a year, so we neighbors stepped in and helped. One of the children was a playmate and close friend of my baby brother’s.

A few years after the dentist died, his widow died of cancer and the children were adopted by their aunt and uncle. It was all so tragic. I was just a kid myself at the time, old enough to help the widow with housekeeping and yard chores and childcare, but still a kid — anyway, it affected us all deeply.

Can you imagine if the Covid vaccines had been given the year the father died? The vax doomers would claim he’d been killed by the vax, and the vax caused the mother’s cancer. Steve Kirsch would ask “what are the odds?”


70 posted on 09/01/2022 6:30:33 AM PDT by CatHerd (Whoever said "All's fair in love and war" probably never participated in either.)
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To: dennisw

One doctor I listened to is predicting 50 million vaxx deaths in the US in the next 2-5 years.


71 posted on 09/01/2022 6:32:56 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: OHPatriot

Never vaxxed, never had any Covid. I started my day/today with 20000 units D3 with a K2 capsule + a teaspoon of cod liver oil. On an empty stomach. D3 gets best consumed by taking it with oil, or with a meal with oils or fats.

D3 is my anti-Covid defense. For a Hi-dose D3 program, I also take magnesium in the form of magnesium glycinate.


72 posted on 09/01/2022 6:35:22 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: Georgia Girl 2

“One doctor I listened to is predicting 50 million vaxx deaths in the US in the next 2-5 years.”

Way too high! But we have supply chain problems due to many Americans being vaxxxx- incapacitated in mind or body or both. Thus, unable to work.

Dr Peter McCullough said 15% have bad to serious reactions or death from vaxxxes and boosters. 85% sail through OK or OK enough.

https://www.petermcculloughmd.com/ -— His twitter is very good -—— https://twitter.com/P_McCulloughMD


73 posted on 09/01/2022 6:42:08 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: dennisw

A cousin just died. It was more like 18 months after getting the vaxx. He was only 92.


74 posted on 09/01/2022 6:43:24 AM PDT by FarCenter
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To: dennisw

So why is he still alive and posting garbage on his blog? It’s been way more than five months now.


75 posted on 09/01/2022 6:48:45 AM PDT by CatHerd (Whoever said "All's fair in love and war" probably never participated in either.)
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To: CatHerd

“So why is he still alive and posting garbage on his blog? It’s been way more than five months now.”

He was able to endure the vaxxxx. Same as you I suppose. Steve got Covid two months ago. He rode it just fine with ivermectin and supplements.

Let me guess. You have been vaxxxed 3 times......Me never.


76 posted on 09/01/2022 6:54:05 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: dennisw
While I give Kirsch credit for continuing to dig into the data, it's hardly clear to me that his assessment of this latest batch of data he's received is altogether correct. Moreover, data showing a notable surge in "all cause" deaths in September 2021 is something that has been hiding in plain view for nearly a year now. One hardly needed to wait for government whistleblowers to start paying attention to the data that were already out there.

Specifically, from the official death certificate information compiled by the National Center for Health Statistics, we see that there was a total of 312,515 "all cause" deaths in September 2021, reflecting an "expected death" percentage -- i.e., comparing September 2021's death numbers to a three-year (i.e., September 2017-2019) pre-pandemic baseline average -- of 141%. (Notably, this 141% figure represents the second highest monthly "all cause" excess mortality rate since the pandemic began, exceeded only by the 144% rate recorded in December 2020.)

Scrutinizing these numbers further, the NCHS database indicates that of these 312,515 "all cause" deaths in September 2021, some 63,432 were identified as having been "deaths involving COVID" (i.e., coded as such on individual death certificates). How do these figures compare to the preceding September (i.e., September 2020)? Well, in September 2020, there were 257,190 "all cause" deaths, of which 19,158 were identified as "deaths involving COVID." In short, "all cause" deaths in September 2021 increased by approximately 22% compared to September 2020, whereas COVID deaths in September 2021 increased by a whopping 231% compared to the preceding September.

The above figures include all age groups. Kirsch is writing about new data he's received that focuses on the 18-55 age group specifically. As to this, it is possible to also get more granular with the aforementioned NCHS data. When we do, what do we see?

Again, focusing solely on the month of September, for both 2020 and 2021, we find that for the age cohort 18-29, there were 6,227 "all cause" deaths in September 2021, compared to 5,399 in September 2020 (an increase of some 15%). For other age groups, we see:

30-39 -- 10,526 "all cause" deaths in September 2021; 7,312 such deaths in September 2020 (an increase of 44%).

40-49 -- 16,369 "all cause" deaths in September 2021; 10,700 such deaths in September 2020 (an increase of 53%).

50-64 -- 60,195 "all cause" deaths in September 2021; 43,272 such deaths in September 2020 (an increase of 39%).

And what do we see for "deaths involving COVID" specifically?

For the 18-29 cohort -- 775 COVID deaths in September 2021; 86 such deaths in September 2020 (an increase of 801%).

30-39 -- 2,552 COVID deaths in September 2021; 235 such deaths in September 2020 (an increase of 986%).

40-49 -- 5,510 COVID deaths in September 2021; 627 such deaths in September 2020 (an increase of 779%).

50-64 -- 17,848 COVID deaths in September 2021; 3,053 such deaths in September 2020 (an increase of 485%).

Finally, if we were to extract out from the "all cause" deaths that were incurred in September 2021 and September 2020 the deaths identified as "involving COVID," what would we see? For the 18-29 age cohort, there were an additional 139 non-COVID related deaths in September 2021, compared to September 2020. For the other age groups, we see:

30-39 -- an additional 897 non-COVID deaths in September 2021, compared to September 2020.

40-49 -- an additional 786 non-COVID deaths in September 2021, compared to September 2020.

50-64 -- an additional 2,128 non-COVID deaths in September 2021, compared September 2020.

Make of these data what you may. For my part, if Kirsch means to be saying that the surge in "all cause" deaths in September 2021 is attributable solely to (or even significantly to) vaccine uptake five months earlier, I question whether that is the correct way to interpret the data. My own take, for what it's worth, is that vaccine uptake is responsible, but that we're talking about increased vaccine uptake starting in August 2021 -- i.e., about the time that the so-called "Delta" variant began to make the news and about the time the Biden administration (and various other state-level governmental and private entities) began their push for vaccine "mandates" (e.g., in order to attend school, etc.). It was at that time that many younger people, who had not been vaccinated at all up to that point, began to take the shot.

It has long been understood -- although this information, while not exactly suppressed, has not been widely trumpeted by vax-crazed "public health" authorities -- that one's immune system is compromised for a time (said to be about two weeks) immediately after taking one of these mRNA COVID vaccines. For me, the most straightforward explanation for the foregoing data is that a lot of younger people either went out (or were essentially made to go out) and got a COVID vaccine for the first time (or perhaps a second shot in the series) starting around August of 2021, this compromised their immune system immediately, they contracted COVID, and it killed them. After all, COVID deaths increased by 231% in September 2021, compared to September 2020, at which time, of course, no one had yet been vaccinated. Doesn't that fact alone seem, I dunno, odd?

Other interpretations are, of course, possible, and I'm certainly no epidemiologist. But the data are what they are, and I think they demand an explanation. I give credit for Kirsch for at least beginning to look into something that has been evident for a long, long time.

77 posted on 09/01/2022 6:55:05 AM PDT by DSH
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To: Jane Long

Just imagine if there had been long term human studies.

Errr... /s

(studies which are almost guaranteed not to happen now since no one will fund them publicly)


78 posted on 09/01/2022 7:01:13 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: dennisw

From Karl Denninger.
Hold on to your hats, folks.

Eight mice.

That’s all they tested the new Omicron jab on.

https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=246813


79 posted on 09/01/2022 7:15:22 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: gas_dr

Yes, the anti vaxxer predictions never seem to materialize but that never stops the cult from falsely proclaiming more fear porn.

I have yet to see an impartial analyses of these ridiculous claims actually validated. It’s all made up propaganda sucking in the suspicious, the gullible and the mentally unstable.

It may be that these mRNA shots do cause side effects of a lasting nature but it’s impossible to tell because of the totally unreliable information being distributed by those opposed to any types of vaccines.

This is very sad tht FR has become a known repository of nonsense which in former days would have been quickly removed and the responsible parties zotted.


80 posted on 09/01/2022 7:15:51 AM PDT by Warriorposter
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