Posted on 08/30/2022 8:48:37 AM PDT by David Chase
I try to read Free Republic every day, and I can no longer count how many articles there have been regarding people dying, which have been asserted to be the consequence of the "vaccine."
After reading further in this thread I have noticed a lot of people asserting that she committed suicide, and so that is clearly not related to the "vaccine."
But that information was not available to me at the time I made my post.
Please check her career stats on ESPN(bleech).
She played 3 years. She wasn’t a star basketball player, based on the statistics. Still, very sad... Rest in Peace,,, and condolences to her family, friends, and fiance.
I’ve seen threads where people kept blaming the vax even after others posted links to media reports the person died in a horrible accident, committed suicide or had overdosed on fentanyl.
Once (the accident case), I pointed out the multiple media reports on the real cause of death, and guess what that person replied? That he or she would not believe it until he/she saw an autopsy report and vax records!
Yes, there are unreasonable people on our side as well.
That is a very real consideration.
Unless a woman is a sociopath, something like that would haunt her to the grave.
It also haunt some of the men that were party to it
Something else I thought of when posting this was that fact that when people die of suicide, the way the person died is often not mentioned.
The term “Died suddenly” is used. Suicide is usually sudden but it’s impact on friends and family is different than cancer or heart attack. It makes those that loved or knew them feel rejected themselves.
It’s also very Taboo in many religious sects.
I was often attacked for mentioning those facts about suicide obituaries and how the death from such isn’t not mentioned, but here’s a Twitter post from her employer not mentioning suicide.
Of course the attacker regarding that is a vile day drinker (and evening drinker) so I shouldn’t fret much.
Now why start assuming this young lady had an abortion?
Why even imply it?
If her death is clearly not from the vax it must be that her death is somehow her fault?
What’s wrong with you?
I’m beginning think that Q People actually hate and despise anyone who isn’t in their cult. Even a dead young woman that took her own life.
Disgusting.
Only people posting this Q stuff in the way you do are RATS lately. You are a RAT and you were dead wrong about the fake vaxes. You should hide in shame.
Good observation. Suicide is considered an embarrassment to the deceased as well as the family in some families and communities. (Same with drug overdoses presumed to be accidental.) It’s considered an intensely private matter, to be kept in the family and among the closest of friends, not advertised to the public. At least not advertised by them via an obituary. Doing so feels like a betrayal of the deceased to the family. It’s not something many families want preserved for posterity in an obituary for grandchildren and great-grandchildren to read about, either.
Those left to grieve have to work through a complicated grief. The shock. The guilt over not knowing the person was planning suicide and stopping him or her. Wondering whether anything they did or said contributed to the decision to end his or her life. Why didn’t they see it coming or do this or that, how did I let him or her down? Lots of “if onlys”.
I haven’t had to endure that myself, but have been close to others who have. In one case, the grieving father committed suicide years later himself. He tried the grief counseling for years, had loving support from his wife and family and friends, but ... never got over it.
So true.
I forgot to add drug over doses but you mentioned them.
Another guilt trip for the family as they probably been through hell with the drug user, if it’s chronic.
That may be true in general, but it seems distasteful to speculate about any particular woman whose family is grieving. I know you didn’t mean it in a way that might be hurtful to her family and friends if they read it (you never know on the internet), or cast aspersions on the memory of a particular woman whose private life and private history we know nothing about.
True, overdose deaths are hard on the family, but if it was accidental (not intentional and therefore suicide) or the person was a longtime addict, it’s really awful, but not the same as the longterm complicated grief after a suicide.
If it’s unclear whether the person meant to overdose, and not a hopeless addict, and the family is left to wonder then of course it is a lot like grieving a suicide I should think, only with added ambiguity and ambiguity isn’t fun, either. Did she mean to or not? Oh man, that would be so very hard.
People can be thoughtless in what they say to those grieving someone who died of an overdose, too. A cousin died suddenly and very young years ago. He was at a party at a friend’s parents’ house when he died. Some of the kids had done some drugs before going to the party (not heroin tor anything like that, but I don’t remember exactly what now). So it was speculated he’d OD’d, although he was never known to be into drugs.
The autopsy results took time, and his funeral was held before they came back. The preacher got the bright idea to “scare straight” the many young people packing the church and held forth on the dangers and evils of drugs and “let this be a lesson to you”. It nearly killed his mother and his father was horrified but had to tend to his wife.
Then the autopsy results came back. Not drugs. He had a congenital heart defect, previously unknown. Even if it had been drugs, I cannot imagine a preacher putting the parents through such a thing at their child’s funeral.
I am not a Q person and just stating a fact.
Why did you post it if you didn’t expect anyone to speculate on what caused her to commit suicide. Other than Virtue Grandstanding about how offended you are, why did you bother?
Does it bother you that women addiction, depression and suicide rates skyrocket after an abortion? That is what should bother you.
Good story—it is always best to keep your mouth shut around family members during such times.
I have no problem with folks speculating on-line, but in person with the family is bad news.
No you are not stating a fact.
You are behaving like a Qtard.
You’re making a statement not supported by facts and repeating it.
You are using a Death to promote your made up “fact”.
There is no proof that women who have had abortions have an increase in suicides.
How would like it if someone says when you die that you were probably a closet gay and had HIV?
Would the be respectful?
Would that make your family and friends feel better?
All we know is that she committed suicide. We can assume she had deep emotional problems but that’s it.
No one post a death notice looking for people to come along and suggest the most outrages or unproven cause of death.
Would you like it if it was your loved one?
The Preacher and some here ought to do ride-alongs with EMS and watch Mothers hysterical, sobbing and even vomiting as they’re informed their child is dead.
I’m often surprised or baffled by how many of the general public haven’t experienced tragedy.
I can’t explain it well, but my wife says most people didn’t live in a world of nightmares.
The coldest people here are the ones that have had a shielded life.
Someone dies, at home or in the hospital from cancer.
Actually, there are plenty of studies showing increased depression, addiction and suicide from abortions. You calling everyone a Qtarb proves exactly who and what you are. People speaking the truth have to be stopped by the thought police and you seem to be the self-appointed sheriff.
She is the perfect candidate to be told the feminist lie. You obviously posted it to get on your soapbox and feign outrage at a bunch of FReepers. Now go back to DU and tell all your buddies how you told off some more FReepers.
I think people forget The Internet Is Forever. What you write today is available for years and years (if only sometimes via the Way back Machine). You never know who is reading your comments. And whether a grandchild will be searching grandpa’s name or Great Aunt Betty’s one day.
Children search a deceased parent’s name looking for answers or connection, especially when the parent died in an accident or in circumstances the child doesn’t fully understand. Yes, they really do. They also do searches when a beloved aunt, uncle, etc. or friend or classmate dies, especially in unusual or ambiguous circumstances. It’s hard enough to shield children from ugly truths they are not ready to handle yet (”your little classmate Lucie was killed by her own Mommy or Daddy”) these days, and that can’t be helped. Why add to it with speculation about a person?
The internet is the new Public Square, and is even called “The Digital Public Square” and Justice Anthony Kennedy called it “the modern Public Square”. And we all know it’s not cool to malign people with no solid basis and chance to defend themselves or to make spurious insinuations about people in The Public Square.
Politicians and other public figures are fair game for criticism in the Public Square, of course. They also have access to platforms to defend themselves if false rumors get started and catch on. Ordinary people don’t.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.