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Trump’s Espionage? Washington DC and the Pundits Won’t Talk About This, But I will
The Conservative Treehouse ^ | 16 August 2022 | "Sundance"

Posted on 08/16/2022 3:09:11 PM PDT by ScaniaBoy

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To: ScaniaBoy

“Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?” is from ancient Latin (Juvenal: Satire VI) and translates to “Who will guard the guards themselves?” We establish our police and intelligence services to guard our civil society and safety. Yet we are seeing these ‘guardians’ corrupted like the Praetorian Guards of the Caesars by the access to power.

As Lord Acton postulated; “Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely!”


41 posted on 08/16/2022 4:41:15 PM PDT by SES1066 (More & more it looks like Brandon's best decision was Kamala! UGH!)
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To: ScaniaBoy

Shame on Congress for allowing the FBI and the DOJ to assume the position of “governmental oversight”. It’s quite clear the FBI has had that attitude for a quite some time but now under Garland, the DOJ has joined. It makes me wonder what kind of investigations the DOJ and FBI have going against SCOTUS members (of the Constitutional mind).


42 posted on 08/16/2022 4:51:24 PM PDT by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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To: liberalh8ter

https://babylonbee.com/news/weak-conservative-hasnt-even-been-raided-by-the-fbi-yet


43 posted on 08/16/2022 4:54:12 PM PDT by combat_boots
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To: Brian Griffin
The FBI didn’t bust into Katherine Gramham’s house.

I think it's wishful thinking to believe the FBI searched the Winter White House just out of spite (although no doubt spite was involved). The stakes are too high.

I'm not saying they were justified. I am saying they wouldn't have done it if they didn't have near certainty that the search would result in an indictment.

And given that almost every judge in America is corrupt, that's concerning.
44 posted on 08/16/2022 5:14:16 PM PDT by Observator
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To: Liz

Because the gang of 8 are almost all compromised, i.e. “bought”.

There are exceptions, but few of them.


45 posted on 08/16/2022 5:34:31 PM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Observator

think it’s wishful thinking to believe the FBI searched the Winter White House just out of spite (although no doubt spite was involved). The stakes are too high.


If we were discussing honest reasonable men whose only beef was a political disagreement, your comment would be a reasonable observation.

But my belief is that we are dealing with people who have been very corrupt, who have been enriched by graft and man other criminal actions Not only politicians, but many large corporations, banks and financiers have been to the trough.

Desperate men do desperate things. Not only their finances, but their way of life, standing in government, their community, their family their clubs.....all are in danger of disruption or loss.

And I repeat, desperate men will do desperate things.

And with those desperate men in control of our country, our judicial sytem and our ability to make war, we should realize that we are also in a desperate situation.


46 posted on 08/16/2022 5:40:58 PM PDT by old curmudgeon (There is no situation so bad that the federal government can not make worse.)
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To: ScaniaBoy
"... and this bipartisan briefing to both democrats and republicans removes Main Justice from the appearance of political impropriety. "

As a response to such a briefing, one might expect the following from the Gang of Eight:

"Attorney General Garland, in the interest of preventing even the appearance of impropriety, can we offer a suggestion?"

"In light of the fact that President Obama nominated YOU to the Supreme Court and a Republican Senate refused to approve that nomination for about a year, and, further, in light of the fact that it was President Trump that appointed someone else to that position, do you think propriety might best be served if you recused yourself from this matter?"

Such a comment might have been quite helpful in avoiding any appearance of impropriety.

47 posted on 08/16/2022 5:41:53 PM PDT by William Tell
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To: old curmudgeon
Desperate men do desperate things.

Indeed, and much is yet unknown. We shall see. I expect an indictment, and most likely a conviction.
48 posted on 08/16/2022 5:58:34 PM PDT by Observator
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To: old curmudgeon

And with those desperate men in control of our country, our judicial sytem and our ability to make war, we should realize that we are also in a desperate situation.


Those are good observations, but remember what can happen when we become desperate also.


49 posted on 08/16/2022 6:04:36 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: Alberta's Child

Good catch: “How does the author know the “Gang of Eight” WASN’T notified?

When Sundance can’t quite get his theories to meet in the middle he fills in the dots himself and hopes for the best.

Sundance is a mixed bag...


50 posted on 08/16/2022 6:10:35 PM PDT by LongWayHome
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To: PeterPrinciple

remember what can happen when we become desperate also.


I think often of what it might be like and I hope that it never comes to that.

Because any attempt at an organized battle with opposing armies will never happen. Warthogs and drones with hellfire missiles make that suicidal.

I think it would take the form of the Irish “troubles”, as they called it. Your house burned while you were at the grocery store, a sniper shot though your window wile you are looking at TV in the evening, a couple of guys walking into the restaurant while you are eating diner with friends and killing you and all of the people at your table. Both sides, no one safe.

And from that sort of war the country will never recover.

Antifa and Black Lives Matter all over again on a national scale....same tactics with different actors and different goals.

No fun for either side. In fact there would probably be three or four sides all with different goals.

There has to be a better way and we should try hard to find it.


51 posted on 08/16/2022 6:56:06 PM PDT by old curmudgeon (There is no situation so bad that the federal government can not make worse.)
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To: LongWayHome

I thought Sundance was a woman.


52 posted on 08/16/2022 7:40:54 PM PDT by Macho MAGA Man (No!)
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To: Macho MAGA Man

Nope. He’s a guy. Named Mark Bradman.


53 posted on 08/16/2022 8:06:54 PM PDT by LongWayHome
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To: LongWayHome

Thanks. I never knew that. I had read Sundance was a woman.


54 posted on 08/16/2022 8:09:04 PM PDT by Macho MAGA Man (No!)
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To: Macho MAGA Man

You’re welcome. There’s a lot about him on the internet. I don’t remember how the female thing started, or when.


55 posted on 08/16/2022 8:11:47 PM PDT by LongWayHome
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To: ScaniaBoy

I hear ya, but the problem is - WE don’t even get to pose the questions to our politicians anymore. THEY only allow THEIR invited media to do that.

It would be nice if our politicians still actually had to answer to their constituents.


56 posted on 08/17/2022 5:31:25 AM PDT by joethedrummer (We can't vote our way out of this, folks..)
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To: Liz

Hm.

This goes right back to the same thing that took place when Crossfire Hurricane (investigation on Trump) was officially opened by the FBI on July 31, 2016 (Devin Nunes, with some justification, opines that the investigation started in reality as early as 2015) but the notification of the Gang of Eight (at that time composed of Senate Majority leader Mitch McConnell, House Speaker Paul Ryan, Senator Richard Burr (Senate Intelligence Committee Chairman), Representative Devin Nunes (HSPCI Chairman), Senator Chuck Schumer, Representative Nancy Pelosi, Senator Dianne Feinstein (Vice Chair Senate Intelligence Committee and resigning following the 2016 election and giving way to Senator Mark Warner) and Representative Adam Schiff was notified only by telling Nancy Pelosi and Adam Schiff.

The Intelligence Community did not deliver full briefings to all Gang of Eight members when Operation Crossfire Hurricane began; briefings were held days apart and not simultaneously. Some members received different briefings from others. Some briefings were given to staffers and not the sitting member holding office. No full briefings on the FBI’s activities were ever given to all members.

Only Schiff and Pelosi were initially told. Instead of briefing them all together, they were told piecemeal. Nobody knew what the others were told by CIA Director Brennan, since only Schiff and Pelosi were the only two who heard the same thing.

Being the liar and scumbag Brennan is, the problem here is obvious.


57 posted on 08/17/2022 5:37:38 AM PDT by rlmorel (Nolnah's Razor: Never attribute to incompetence that which is adequately explained by malice.)
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To: old curmudgeon

“...There has to be a better way and we should try hard to find it ...”

Well said, sir. I think the comparison to The Troubles in Ireland were apt.


58 posted on 08/17/2022 7:06:57 AM PDT by Cloverfarm (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem ...)
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