Yes, the poster is drawing conclusions not supported by data. But you also do not have data to draw the conclusion that anyone is engaging in “bizarre Vax Fear Porn” - the vax was an obvious failure, yet all the organs of government were rolled out in a concerted attempt to get people vaccinated mostly through propaganda. The vax has been treated differently in terms of number of adverse events that would result in the vaccine (at a minimum) being paused. Data has not been forthcoming from the FDA, CDC or Pfizer on what testing was done and how many adverse events.
Next there were clearly different “batches” of vaccine that were tracked and that had differing numbers of adverse events by batch. Were the batches different? was the recipe different? was it just a statistical anomaly?
These would normally be easy questions to answer. We don’t have the answer.
Lastly, pregnant women and now young children recommended for vaccines? This is never a good idea, yet, there we are.
My own daughter was pregnant during “peak vaccine” and her doctor said officially he had to recommend the vax and then whispered “Don’t get the vax”. He was creamed for that by his employer (someone noticed none of his pregnant patients were getting vaxxed) (yes, anectdotal, but there are multiple independent examples of this sort of behavior on the part of hospitals and large practices).
So I think we are in agreement on cracking open the data and letting it lead wherever it leads. But to presuppose that to insist on this is “bizarre vax fear porn” is an offshoot of the vaccine propaganda - uncalled for and unsupportable. It is entirely possible, at this point, that the data points to a place where it’s not so bizarre afterall, couldn’t it?
Data is supposed to be collected and treated without agenda. This has not been done in the case of Covid vaccines, so I think it is not unreasonable to be skeptical. That’s my position as someone who understands what mRNA vaccines do, how this one was designed, and who knew, based on extensive reading and research, that there was a very good chance it would be ineffective over the long term, so I declined the vax - because I had gotten/quickly recovered from COVID (also treating it early using much maligned early treatment regimens).
Maybe it was luck, but since the early treatments were not profitable to pharma, and those profits trickled down to many in government - they were actively suppressed, I took the chance that they would/could be effective. I think they were, based on my results - but maybe I would have gotten over it anyway. That would have been a good thing to study (and I’m aware of some studies that were done - but that is another conversation).
That's not how it works. It isn't a numbers game.
The reported events would have to be judged as serious and caused by the vaccine. That's happened before but not in the case of the Covid vaccines.
Data has not been forthcoming from the FDA, CDC or Pfizer on what testing was done and how many adverse events.
Of course it has. What makes you think the data disclosure has been less for these vaccines vs. earlier ones?
Next there were clearly different “batches” of vaccine that were tracked and that had differing numbers of adverse events by batch. Were the batches different? was the recipe different? was it just a statistical anomaly?
These would normally be easy questions to answer. We don’t have the answer.
Of course vaccines, especially when you're talking about hundreds of millions of doses, are prepared in batches and unless the pharma companies are flat out cheating the formulation is going to be constant and what the FDA approved.
Do you have any reason to think otherwise?
Differences in reported adverse events could be statistical noise or the result of different batches being given to different populations.
Data is supposed to be collected and treated without agenda. This has not been done in the case of Covid vaccines...
You keep saying this but I don't know what data you think is missing vs. earlier vaccines.
“ But you also do not have data to draw the conclusion that anyone is engaging in “bizarre Vax Fear Porn”
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What do you call this for over 2 years?? These tidbits were taken from here that where Threads posted:
The vaccine spike protein is cytotoxic (i.e. has the same effects as chemo
drugs, heavy metal,
cyanide, and mushroom poisoning)
-The vaxx causes male and female infertility
-The vaxx induces miscarriage in pregnant women
-The vaxx causes birth defects in women who have been jabbed during
or before pregnancy
-They cause
“permanent” blood clots throughout your body
- The vaxxed shed dangerous spike proteins that give you vaxx cooties
and cause menstrual
irregularities and headaches
-mRNA vaccines alter your DNA, turning you into a GMO
- The spike proteins fuse to your bloodvessels,
“’making them bumpy” so
that blood clots form
- The vaxxed have weakened immune systems, causing various cancers
in the vaxxed
-The vaxxed all gunna die in *insert time period here, ranging from 1
month to 20 years*
-There are parasitic
“graphene oxide nanoworms” in the masks that are
activated by warm breath.
-There are Polypodium organisms and eggs in the vaccine (a parasite of
black sturgeon eggs)
-The vaxx makes you magnetic
-There are genetically modified Polypodium and eggs designed to
metabolize graphene oxide in the vaccine
-Moderna added Luciferase to the vaccine, which creates a
“dot matrix
specimen tag” that can be tracked remotely via 5G cellphone towers
-The vaxx injects nanometallic particles and/or graphene oxide which is
used to control your mind via 5G cellphone towers
-There are polypodium-like nanobots, composed of graphene oxide with
‘pure iron”
‘ tentacle tips in the vaccine. These nanobots, can be controlled
remotely via 5G cellphone towers.
And let’s not forget:
- There is no COVID19, the disease is actually caused by 5G
electromagnetic radiation (they can’t agree upon which part of the
electromagnetic spectrum is responsible for the symptoms, but usually it’s the typical
“electromagnetic sensitivity” bulls*** claiming that a special EM
frequency causes
the cells to
“oscillate” and “cook)
-King Cobra snake venom (some say also krait venom).
- They contain itty bitty razor blades
- They contain mechanical nano-octopuses.
They contain Trypanosoma cruzi and therefore give you Chagas
Disease
- They contain magnetic four-legged nano-robots
- They give you HIV/AIDS
- They give you monkeypox.
- Bill Gates can activate the magnetic nanobots, in the vaccines via 5G to
(a) control your mind or (b) kill you
- They give you chemical and radiation poisoning
- They give you instant breast cancer (as in advanced metastatic breast
cancer within three days)
- They give you yard-long blood clots
- They give you seizures
- They give you malaria
They enable time travel, according to Naomi Wolf.
This is my data of Bizarre Vax Fear Porn.
Do you subscribe to this?
There are legitimate reasons to be question the safety and efficacy of the vaccines. They are rarely found on FR. Instead we mainly get fear porn clickbait from whacky grifter sites like The Expose, mainly posted by Q followers from the beginning.
It made it difficult for sane and reasonable to find reliable information here when deciding whether to get the vaccine.
So far, what appears to be real: There does appear to elevated risk for myocarditis, especially in young males (and there is also absolutely a higher risk of it if infected with Covid). And it looks like there may be elevated risk for a shingles outbreak, and this is being studied.
And I agree that vaccinating children is unnecessary and silly — ditto for masking them. I can certainly understand pregnant women being leery of a new vaccine — or any new drug.
As for the batch thing, that was wildly popular on FR among the Q followers and antivaxxers, after articles about it from The Expose were posted. Highly recommended by these people was a site called “How Bad Is My Batch” run by one Craig Paardekooper, who believes the vaccines contain graphene oxide, make you magnetic, 5G conspiracy nuttiness and other nonsense (I call him Mr. Magneto). There is a whole lot wrong with that site and his analysis, but I already posted about that at the time and too tired of it to repeat myself.
The Covid virus has mutated to become more contagious but less virulent, as Corona viruses tend to do, and the vaccines offer very little to no protection at this time. Everyone who was going to get the vaccine has already done so. These who have not never will. The question of whether to get vaxxed is moot now.
BTW, I have y not been vaccinated myself. I had a doozy of a case back in February 2020 — must have got quite the viral load as a woman from New York coughed all over me and another lady, who also got a bad case of it. At that time, there was no talk of HCQ or ivermectin, or I may may have tried them. As it turns out, they looked good in vitro but in vivo they both appear to be mildly helpful at best.
When MABs became available, which really do work like a charm, I decided I’d go with that rather than messing around with HCQ or ivermectin if I got Delta. As both HCQ and ivermectin are old, cheap, safe drugs, why not let people use them if they believe in them?
That said, I do wonder about the long-term effects of taking ivermectin daily, as some still do for covid prophylaxis. For treatment of roundworms, it’s a one and done deal. In areas where River Blindness or Elephantiasis are endemic, it’s one dose once or twice per year. To my knowledge, it’s not been used daily for long periods before. HCQ has, though, and the long-term effects well known (it takes about five years before elevated risks for serious side effects kick in).