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Media Covers Ukraine WAY MORE Than They Covered Iraq
(Youtube) The Jimmy Dore Show ^ | 8/7/22 | Jimmy Dore

Posted on 08/07/2022 2:15:56 PM PDT by Its All Over Except ...

How does the U.S. news media treat invasions conducted by hostile nations compared to those conducted by American forces? To answer this question Fairness and Accuracy in Reporting (FAIR) studied a month’s worth of the New York Times’ coverage early on in the Ukraine invasion and a comparable month’s coverage of the US invasion of Iraq in 2003. Their findings? That the Times paid much more attention to the Ukraine War, and highlighted civilian casualties in Ukraine far more than the paper did for the Iraq War – this even though the United States was a direct combatant in the latter conflict, but had no troops (officially) on the ground in Ukraine.

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1 posted on 08/07/2022 2:15:56 PM PDT by Its All Over Except ...
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The NYT is the tip of the sphere for globalist news.

As well, the MSM needs to do more coverage of Ukrainian military casualties and more condemning of Neocon NATO as in when they went rogue and were involved in offensively bombing Yugoslavia when NATO is a defensive charter (and no NATO members were attacked when) and when they offensively bombed Libya with the U.S. “leading from behind” on Odumba’s behalf on unproven allegations that Gaddafi was going to kill 10k of his own people, when Libya didn’t attack any NATO members, etc, etc.


2 posted on 08/07/2022 2:19:29 PM PDT by Its All Over Except ...
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Gravitas Plus (WION): Did NATO push Ukraine into war?

The Ukraine conflict has been ‘westsplained’ enough. On Gravitas Plus, Palki Sharma tells you how Western arrogance & NATO’s expansionism are also to blame, how their actions precipitated the crisis in Ukraine.”

https://youtu.be/TzgPJeYZaOU


3 posted on 08/07/2022 2:21:14 PM PDT by Its All Over Except ...
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Gravitas Plus (WION): Did NATO push Ukraine into war?

The Ukraine conflict has been ‘westsplained’ enough. On Gravitas Plus, Palki Sharma tells you how Western arrogance & NATO’s expansionism are also to blame, how their actions precipitated the crisis in Ukraine.”

https://youtu.be/TzgPJeYZaOU


4 posted on 08/07/2022 2:21:19 PM PDT by Its All Over Except ...
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To: Its All Over Except ...
Jimmy Dore, a liberal Russiagate skeptic. Him, Mate and Greenwald held the line.
5 posted on 08/07/2022 2:24:32 PM PDT by Theoria
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To: Theoria

Jimmy Dore repeatedly hammered the Russia! Russia! Russia! nonsense that flowed from MSNBC; he went after Rachel Maddow repeatedly.

But alas we see some of the same Maddow, liberal talking points here on FR.


6 posted on 08/07/2022 2:31:11 PM PDT by Its All Over Except ...
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To: Its All Over Except ...

Invading countries you claim as existential threats…

“ It’s OK when we do it”


7 posted on 08/07/2022 3:00:15 PM PDT by silverleaf (“Freedom ultimately means the right of other people to do things that you disagree with”. T. Sowell )
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It is imperative that the legacy media control the :narrative: so that the Hunter Biden involvement in Ukraine in both energy and bio-research NOT be reported on.

As it has been observed, the legacy media has two clear powers. One is to report correctly or incorrectly, and the other is to FAIL to report.

We are in the era of the later, whether having to do with inflation, the military and pharmaceutical industrial complexes, or the simple fact that :reducing inflation: under Democrats means "raising taxes."

8 posted on 08/07/2022 3:18:34 PM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time
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To: silverleaf

George W. Bush Confuses Ukraine With Iraq, Calls it ‘Unjustified’ Invasion

https://www.newsweek.com/george-w-bush-confuses-ukraine-iraq-calls-it-unjustified-invasion-1708004


9 posted on 08/07/2022 3:32:20 PM PDT by packagingguy
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They are working overtime ... takes a Hell of a lot more effort to produce fake news.


10 posted on 08/07/2022 4:01:05 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (Biden not only suffers fools and criminals, he appoints them to positions of responsibility. )
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The media is under orders: keep the war going . . . for years . ..


11 posted on 08/07/2022 4:29:34 PM PDT by aimhigh (THIS is His commandment . . . . 1 John 3:23)
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An interesting look at how policy is made in Zelensky’s office (posts cover a one week period.) Source is a Ukrainian site with an “inside source in the OP”

Resident
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source in the OP said that Zaluzhny reported on the difficult situation in the fortified areas around Donetsk, asking to cancel the promised counteroffensive on Kherson in order to keep the situation on the eastern front. The Russian army began to develop an offensive on Soledar / Bakhmut / Seversk, the defensive redoubts of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in Pisky were hacked. Zelensky does not agree and requires Zaluzhny to carry out the decision of the stake - the task is to disrupt the referendums in Kherson and Zaporozhye in any way.
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source in the OP said that today Zelensky demanded that Zaluzhny continue preparing the #Battle_for_Kherson operation and launch a counteroffensive before August 24. The President separately in his address emphasized that the previous decisions of the rate must be implemented by everyone.
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source in the OP said that Zaluzhny reported to Zelensky about the difficult situation on the eastern front, due to the start of the Donbas Bulge operation by Russian troops. The Armed Forces of Ukraine are defeated in Sands and Avdiivka, which are the main fortified area of ​​Ukraine around Donetsk, the loss of these villages will allow Russian troops to encircle Slavyansk / Kramatorsk / Konstantinovka from the West and deprive the Armed Forces of supply.
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source in the OP said that Andriy Yermak requires Zaluzhny to start the #Battle_for_Kherson operation within a month in order to prevent a referendum in the occupied territories. The Head of the Office of the President considers it important to give Ukraine hope for liberation, and not to wait for better conditions.
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source in the OP said that Zaluzhny is asking Zelensky to urgently return the artillery that was being prepared for the counteroffensive to the eastern front. Now the Armed Forces of Ukraine are being compared to the ground in Pesky/Avdeevka/Bakhmut/Soledar/Seversk, and no one is conducting counter-battery work, because of the demand of the President’s Office to disrupt the referendum in the Kherson and Zaporozhye regions. The Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine insists on curtailing preparations for the counteroffensive and switching to defense, so as not to lose the Donetsk region now.
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source in the OP said that Zelensky refused to discuss with Macron options for resuming the negotiation process with Russia. At Bankova, they consider the terms of the Kremlin’s peace treaty unacceptable for Ukraine, without the withdrawal of troops from the Kherson and Zaporozhye regions, we will not even discuss the format.
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source in the OP said that the counteroffensive was postponed indefinitely, the operation #Battle_for_Kherson is now a big question. The transfer of artillery from the eastern front to the South led to the fact that the fortified areas lost their cover and the Russian army began to quickly break them open, and the Armed Forces of Ukraine suffered heavy losses. Avdiivka and Peski effectively repulsed the attacks for 5 months, and after the withdrawal of artillery they became easy prey for the Russian army.
Resident
Colleagues, the moment for a counterattack in the South of Ukraine was lost and now the eastern front is already feeling the miscalculations of the command, which wanted to follow the instructions of the President’s Office and organize the #Battle_for_Kherson operation . In reality, the Armed Forces of Ukraine do not have the strength to strike, and the defense in the Donbass began to crumble, which could cause the loss of a strategic fortified area. Zaluzhny today asked Zelensky to allow part of the artillery to be returned to the eastern front, but so far there has been no decision!
Resident
Our source from the Office of the President at the beginning of the week said that the counter-offensive was canceled, and the #Battle_for_Kherson would become a battle that was destined to remain on paper.
“Our main plans will be as early as next year, when stockpiles of weapons will be accumulated ... (At the moment) we do not even have 30% of what we need,” an unnamed Ukrainian senior official told the British newspaper Financial Times

. “We do not expect to get (from the West) enough capacity (weapons) to plan any decisive counteroffensive for this year,” the official said.
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Our source in the OP said that Zaluzhny reported to Zelensky about the withdrawal of the Armed Forces of Ukraine from Sand and Avdiivka, due to the lack of artillery, it is no longer possible to keep this fortified area.
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source in the OP said that Zelensky was holding an extended meeting of the security forces today to decide the fate of the counteroffensive. Zaluzhny once again asked the President to abandon the operation #Battle_for_Kherson and return artillery to the eastern front in order to help the Armed Forces of Ukraine in Bakhmut and stop the breakthrough of Russian troops in Peski.
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source in the OP said that the General Staff is shifting the use of a new direction for a counterattack, since the operation #Battle_for_Kherson at this stage may turn into a waste of the reserves of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. The empty political PR of the Minister of Defense led to the fact that the grouping of Russian troops in Kherson was increased by 3 times. Of the three campaigns developed, Zaluzhny suggested that Zelensky return to the Kharkov counteroffensive, which would allow him to push back the front and strike the Russian grouping on the eastern front from the flank. It is necessary to hold back the advance of Russian troops on the Donbas Bulge by organizing a counteroffensive on Izyum, which will make it possible to disrupt the Russian offensive on Slavyansk.


12 posted on 08/07/2022 4:56:42 PM PDT by Cathi
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Jimmy Dore and Aaron Maté are straight-up commies. Greenwald is a weirdo leftist. They all hate America and decided to love everyone else who hates America too. That is why they are cheering for Putin.


13 posted on 08/08/2022 12:42:03 AM PDT by Krosan
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Jimmy Dore and Greenwald are neither for Ukraine nor for Russia. They see the neoliberal/neocon duopoly in DC (where Bush/Cheney and Obama/Biden were warmongers) and where Obama/Biden got the US in proxy wars in Syria, Yemen and Libya plus two other places. In Libya, the U.S. “led from behind” and bombed Libya on unproven allegations Gaddafi was going to kill 10k of his own people on Odumba’s behalf.

They see this and also see that the Bush’s, Cheney’s, Romney’s, etc, are also in league with this unending warmongering when this country is $30 plus trillion in debt, we don’t even protect our own borders but try to protect Ukraine’s, inflation is out of control, crime is rampant, gas is expensive, etc.

Russia at best would barely take Ukraine, Putin won’t attack the NATO members outside of Ukraine, it’s past time for Europe to grow up and take care of its own back yard, and the U.S. can no longer play world cop.

Biden is a neoliberal warmonger tied at the hip with Ukraine who added on boots on the ground recently in Somalia to add to his resume he gained with Obama.

You only need to do one thing which is to prove you are anti-neocon/neoliberal, not for corrupt Ukraine or Russia, against Biden, Bush, Cheney, and against the WEF and Soros which are tied at the hip with Zelensky and thereby prove you are a true conservative as your baseless Ad Hominem post leaves much to be desired - or why bother talking with you?


14 posted on 08/08/2022 2:55:07 AM PDT by Its All Over Except ...
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To: Krosan

And instead of going after Dore and Greenwald you should take anti-Trump, Russia! Russia! Russia! commie Rachel Maddow’s rants on MSNBC to task.


15 posted on 08/08/2022 2:58:33 AM PDT by Its All Over Except ...
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Rachel Maddow wrote a glowing blurb for Glenn Greenwald's book and called him "American Left's most fearless political commentator."


16 posted on 08/08/2022 3:21:42 AM PDT by Krosan
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