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To: silverleaf

“How can any observer deny the UKR line in Donbass is collapsing with terrible losses?”

If that was happening,there would be large recent territory gains by Russia. But there hasnt been.

thats how.


12 posted on 08/05/2022 7:28:06 AM PDT by FreshPrince
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To: FreshPrince

Uptick in July-that’s good. August is the dog days of summer. Russia is smart enough to know not to mess with a NATO country. There’s a reason for NATO’s existence. Might be Putin/might be the Krauts. Indirect involvement(weapons) is direct involvement but they need to pay the price otherwise they’ll never learn. It’s European history.

We need a respected negotiator to put an end to it where both sides save face-may be undoable because Biden and his crow would never let Trump get credit. Perhaps Hungary’s Orban. Maybe even Musk or heaven forbid Turkey’s Erdogan. This has got to stop. Keep us out of cleaning up the mess afterwards.


16 posted on 08/05/2022 7:36:31 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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To: FreshPrince

The Donbass arc is a war of attrition, both sides trying to destroy personnel and equipment, destruction or occupation of strong points, such as factories and hardened facilities in towns and villages. The Ukes have turned much of the civilian infrastructure such as mines, factories, schools, hospitals, public facilities…even apartment blocks and homes…into military positions. ( noted by Amnesty International)

Some observers note the Ukrainians have been building up this area since 2014 and the Russians are advancing through one of the most heavily militarily-fortified areas in the world. Sometimes the daily gains are 100 meters or less.

But they are using massive artillery and rocket fire on the dug-in UKR, hitting theUKR reserve units to prevent rotation of fresh troops to the front, hitting the brigade command centers to leave the field BNs without coordinated direction, cutting UKR supply lines, and advancing so as to minimize their own casualties. But advancing.

Someday the way they are conducting this campaign will be studied by other militaries, incl ours.


22 posted on 08/05/2022 8:26:13 AM PDT by silverleaf (“Freedom ultimately means the right of other people to do things that you disagree with”. T. Sowell )
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To: FreshPrince

Not even remotely sure what you, Marcus, PIF, etc., etc., etc. are smoking but it must be some good sh*t. War porn is all you all have left to post cause posting actual news on what is occurring in Ukraine would just rip the narratives of the pro-Ukrainian propaganda machine.....


24 posted on 08/05/2022 8:42:03 AM PDT by cranked
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