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To: PK1991

It is ttime for Ukraine to try and cut a deal with Russia and get the best deal that they can.


2 posted on 07/25/2022 6:08:55 AM PDT by Old Retired Army Guy
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To: Old Retired Army Guy
It is ttime for Ukraine to try and cut a deal with Russia and get the best deal that they can.

And suppose - which is almost certainly the case - the best deal they can get is one that inevitably leaves the whole country vulnerable to being swallowed up within the next 5 years?

Better to kill more Russians. And I'm fine with sending them the arms and equipment to do that.

13 posted on 07/25/2022 6:20:58 AM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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Try to see that statement from the average joe in Ukraine’s point of view.

There’s never hoing to be a better deal worth signing with Russia than the deal that created the Commonwealth of INDEPENDENT States, and the Budapest Memorandum.

Both of which Putin has repeatedly said, should never have been signed.

Without those agreements in place Ukraine always has believed Putin would’ve dragged them back into vassal statehood - and then published them severely for not following Belarus into lapdog servitude.

But Ukraine isn’t alone in that. The Baltic states have always distrusted Putin for the exact same reason.

The Russians have always called Ukrainians “khokols” - because ukes are the untermensch - but now the dehumanising language has hone so far that in Russia now it’s considered perfectly okay to post up an uncensored picture of a Downs kid with her back blown to bits and CELEBRATE her death.

That’s a level of social depravity that even Nazi Germany didn’t manage. The Nazis hid what they did to the Jews, Russia openly celebrates what it’s doing to ordinary Ukrainians.

Asking the Ukes to accept whatever Russia decides to do to them even after seeing THAT is contrary to the foundational principles behind the United Nations membership of both countries, post USSR.

And a bit like telling the Jews in Eastern Europe to just grin and bear whatever was headed their way even after Hitler had made his expansion agenda clear.

Cut a deal with Russia?! Ukraine already had the three best deals it could’ve ever had, torn up all on one day in feb 2022.

Churchill said it best: “An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile-hoping it will eat him last.”

No. Appeasement simply delays the inevitable and empowers Putin even more.


47 posted on 07/25/2022 8:10:37 AM PDT by MalPearce
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

Bottomless money pit from hell thanks a lot 🤪


57 posted on 07/25/2022 9:10:56 AM PDT by NWFree (Somebody has to say it)
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