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AGAIN - the signs were all there
Flopping Aces ^ | 07-05-22 | DrJohn

Posted on 07/05/2022 10:20:32 AM PDT by Starman417

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To: 1Old Pro

Counseling won’t do squat for schizophrenia. The drugs for them have horrible side effects which is why most quit taking them as soon as they are released from the psych ward.

Modern psychiatry is mostly voodoo and works about as well.


41 posted on 07/05/2022 12:15:28 PM PDT by Valpal1 (Not even the police are safe from the police!!!)
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“because of laws make it so that the mentally ill are prevented from gettign the help they need”

True but the dirtiest open secret of all is there are no places to send them to get the help they need and even if there were, there aren’t enough motivated people in the world in the numbers needed to take on the task. No one likes crazy and very few will take up the task even if there was money and facilities enough to house these mentally ill.


42 posted on 07/05/2022 12:24:21 PM PDT by mdmathis6 (A horrible historic indictment: Biden Democrats plunging the world into war to hide their crimes!)
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I believe that most mental institutions were shut down during the Reagan Administration.


43 posted on 07/05/2022 12:28:43 PM PDT by NY Attitude (Make love not war but be prepared for either.)
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“There’s no getting around the fact that it’s damn near impossible to conduct “preventive law enforcement” in the U.S. and deprive anyone of their liberty or property without due process, and without clear evidence that an actual crime has been committed. That’s what innocent until proven guilty means, and it’s one of the foundations of the U.S. system of laws and criminal justice.”

Yes. Through hindsight some geniuses declare that this shooting was preventable. If he did not have an arrest history I am not convinced much could have been done by society in general to prevent this shooting. The guy appears to have planned it well yet he still got caught.

There are lots of weirdos in our society and they can’t all be locked up until they commit crimes. Heck one person’s definition of weirdo could be a conservative with guns.


44 posted on 07/05/2022 12:47:58 PM PDT by plain talk
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The deinstitutionalization movements started in the mid 60’s gathering steam thru the 70’s into the 80’s, that is all before President Reagan came into office in 1980, occuring in many states. t California in the 60’s started closing facilities and NY State in the mid to late 70’s.(Stony Brook!!!)

It is true that a mass closure and restructuring of facilities in California took place under Governor Reagan in the mid 60’s though he was hardly the author of it; it was more of a systemic revulsion concerning the old systems and the adopting of a utopian scheme that the mentally ill would be better served by de-instutionalizing mental health.

There was no “federal” system of Psychiatric Hospitals for President Reagan after 1981 to “shut down”. The notion of of ‘half way house mainstreaming” supported by the advent of newer,supposedly safer and supposedly better medications was seized upon by politicians in both parties as a way of closing down old decrepit hospitals as well as decreasing the civil rights violations and lawsuits that were plaguing these insitutions and thus costing the states and feds beaucoup bucks.

The mentally ill never had a strong political constituency; they never and still don’t vote in great numbers. They can’t vote for themselves any of the “largesse” of the people’s treasury like woke trans and gay people can, citing a couple of examples.


45 posted on 07/05/2022 1:18:50 PM PDT by mdmathis6 (A horrible historic indictment: Biden Democrats plunging the world into war to hide their crimes!)
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To: Starman417

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46 posted on 07/05/2022 1:40:11 PM PDT by Dick Bachert
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Yet local LEO and FBI are snooping on the backgrounds of decent citizens when they address their concerns to local school boards about a curriculum. Upside down AGAIN!

I really never gave it much thought when the bleeding-heart Dems were shutting down the mental institutions. I think I was Navy at the time. It's now obvious what another screwup those policies were.

47 posted on 07/05/2022 2:19:04 PM PDT by A Navy Vet (USA Birth Certificate - 1787. Death Certificate - 2021. )
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