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To: Phoenix8
"A fresh New York Times report has confirmed what many already suspected - that the CIA is still very active inside Ukraine - especially with training as well coordinating weapons among its Ukrainian allies. The Times report details "a stealthy network of commandos and spies rushing to provide weapons, intelligence and training," based on US and European intelligence officials with knowledge of the operations. The report says Ukrainian forces are reliant on this Western clandestine network "more than ever" while outgunned by the Russians.

"This comes months after investigative journalist Zach Dorfman's bombshell expose in Yahoo News which detailed how a prior 8-year long CIA covert program to train Ukrainian fighters helped provoke the Russian invasion. The only question that remained after that March report was the extent to which the CIA was still active in the ongoing fight against the invading Russians.

"Much of this work happens outside Ukraine, at bases in Germany, France and Britain, for example. But even as the Biden administration has declared it will not deploy American troops to Ukraine, some C.I.A. personnel have continued to operate in the country secretly, mostly in the capital, Kyiv, directing much of the vast amounts of intelligence the United States is sharing with Ukrainian forces, according to current and former officials," the report indicates.

Oh, no. There was no provocation by the west.

31 posted on 06/27/2022 10:18:33 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything. )
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

That’s an interesting combination of two articles with parts added that don’t reflect the actual articles.

Zach Dorhman’s article doesn’t say anything about how it ‘helped provoke the Russian invasion.

It does say the program was kept small with the number of CIA people in the low single digits, ie, less than 5. Less than 5 people did not provoke Russia to invade.
It also says that Biden pulled them out in February, before the invasion. That would have seemed to encourage Russia to invade, rather than discourage it, since the USA left and gave token military aid before the invasion.

It also says that there was a debate under Trump about the program -which was started under Obama- and it was considered to be reasonable under how both countries conduct proxy affairs and not seen as a provocation.
The NYT article doesn’t say anything about them being ‘more reliant than ever’ on the CIA. What it says is that they are reliant on international support for a number of things such as weaponry and even spies. The part about the spies then says that “most of this work takes part outside of Ukraine” (training). Of the few dozen commandos inside Ukraine, most are in Kyiv and none are on the front line.


32 posted on 06/27/2022 10:39:50 AM PDT by jimnm
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