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Vanity: DoD Issues Insurrection Response to Abortion Ruling
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Posted on 06/25/2022 8:39:39 PM PDT by TigerClaws

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To: JD_UTDallas

So if Joe murders Sam on an U.S. Army base he can get away with it if the U.S. government decides that’s okay this week?

Don’t think so.

MURDER is MURDER. Abortion = murder = prosecute.

Someone going on the base to perform murder and those that help are either principals or participants (accessories) to that criminal act.


61 posted on 06/26/2022 7:10:11 AM PDT by TigerClaws
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Texas laws against abortion have no jurisdiction on military bases nor does Alabama law nor does California law. There is no ban on Federal abortion until there is there is no way a state can enter a base and take anyone into custody. I can assure you if anyone including local law enforcement tried to strong arm their way onto a base they would be repealed with force including deadly force MPs have M249 SAWS and post 911 routinely went guns up at the post gates rushing a MP position is a sure way to end up dead doesn’t matter what local costume you have on. Federal supremacy wins that argument every time. The provost will follow.Washington orders and not allow local law enforcement on post under penalty of force. Texas has zero jurisdiction regardless of what local laws they want to make. The USC code is clear what defines murder it would be up to the MPs and CID to investigate a crime on post period full stop. If a civilian is involved the U.S. Marshals get involved and could ask the local LEO for assistance but are not required to do so. Simply put if Texas defined homicide to include preborns that has zero effect on the DOD they are above Texas law on their sovereign territory Fort Hood doesn’t belong to Texas nor does Fort Bliss that s just a fact upheld many times by the Fed’s. We also don’t let local Islamic laws in Saudi affect our DOD bases there nor Kuwait nor Qatar. Wishing it true won’t make it so there is a split from state to federal laws territory and lands for a reason.


62 posted on 06/26/2022 7:23:39 AM PDT by JD_UTDallas ("Veni Vidi Vici" )
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To: TigerClaws

What you miss is the key fact that the state of Texas or any other state doesn’t have the legal authority to define a crime on land they don’t have jurisdiction over. The state of Texas cannot tell Mexico what is a crime or not in Nuevo Laredo they no more can tell the Fed’s on their sovereign territory what is or is not a crime that lack jurisdiction and standing it’s not part of their state. Texas cannot tell.California what they hold as a crime nor more than Oklahoma can tell texas the same things. The DOD flat out on their sovereign territory is not beholden to any state anywhere. Those laws have to be codified into.USC law by Congress and Congress alone this is how the Federal system works it’s the basis of federalism.


63 posted on 06/26/2022 7:30:40 AM PDT by JD_UTDallas ("Veni Vidi Vici" )
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To: JD_UTDallas

Page 132 of this legalese document says ‘it depends’...

https://dacipad.whs.mil/images/Public/10-Reading_Room/04_Reports/03_DoD_Reports_Regs_Surveys/AirForce_Military_Commander_Law_Chap5_2016.pdf

I’m not a lawyer so I’ll defer to the experts. Thanks for commenting on the thread.
Learn something new every day here!


64 posted on 06/26/2022 7:39:10 AM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: Allegra

It has seemed to me that some Conservatives are so certain of the ultimate truth and rightness of their positions that they operate according to the ‘by any means necessary’ and ‘the end justifies the means’ philosophies.

I don’t find that in any way superior to leftist tactics.


65 posted on 06/26/2022 7:48:40 AM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: TigerClaws

I’m familiar with exclusive jurisdiction that’s exactly what I’m pointing out. Nearly every large base is 100% Federal soil. Court houses , smaller camps and posts could be shared for expedience. Nearly all of the bases before 1940 have exclusive jurisdiction by default. I can confirm that Fort Hood the largest base in CONUS is exclusive, so much so that civilian LEO have to be escorted on and off. The DOD provides a contractor police force to supplement the MPs they famously took down the Fort Hood shooter. Those officers hold US AG credentials not local Texas TCLOS credentials. They answer to the US AG not the Texas AG. If push came to shove the Fed’s would go for exclusive legislative jurisdiction on all it’s posts or threaten to close the base down wreaking the local economy the states would immediately hand over exclusivity to keep the base in the state bank on that. Fort Bliss was also exclusive as was Fort Polk not sure about Leonard wood. All of our overseas bases are not shared especially the ones in the middle east. We have a special deal with Japan due to some Marine Corps issues in the islands.


66 posted on 06/26/2022 7:57:29 AM PDT by JD_UTDallas ("Veni Vidi Vici" )
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To: JD_UTDallas

I predict there will be a spike in the number of until now undiscovered ‘Indian Tribes’. People finally recognizing their native American roots is all it is. The fact that new abortion clinics will spring up in these new reservation lands is just a coincidence.


67 posted on 06/26/2022 8:06:38 AM PDT by Reily
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To: JD_UTDallas
I know it went 31B/D some years ago. I date myself all the time with the 95 reference and also Ft. McClellan it’s an industrial park now sad so sad.

WOW! McClellan went industrial park! Never would have thought that!!!

68 posted on 06/26/2022 9:11:30 AM PDT by Lazamataz (The firearms I own today, are the firearms I will die with. How I die will be up to them.)
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To: Jamestown1630
I don’t find that in any way superior to leftist tactics.

Nor do I. I don’t want to be like them.

69 posted on 06/26/2022 9:22:48 AM PDT by Allegra
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