Posted on 06/20/2022 6:56:54 AM PDT by SpeedyInTexas
A detailed list of the destroyed and captured vehicles and equipment of both sides can be seen below. This list is constantly updated as additional footage becomes available
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Your message 39: biased info sourced by “Ministry of Defense of Russia” kind of says it all!
“Russian Ministry of Defense”
If you are reading RU MOD and distributing it on FR, you are crazy. Just go read some cartoons in the newspaper and get more truthful/useful info.
I deal with factual information; not cheerleading. I understand facts in this case are discomforting for some people, but you can’t wish them away.
I have read your posts and they are deceptive. You post a lot of mainstream media articles that deliberately mislead. One that I challenged you on stated that Russia bombed a school and 60 people died. When I tried to point out to you that the “school” was a base for Ukrainian troops (there were no children there) and linked an excellent article that went into detail about what was going on you responded that you would not even look at that article because the author lived in Bangkok.
The author of the blog is a former United States marine who fought for our country; but became so disillusioned when he discovered what was really going on he felt he couldn’t even live here anymore. He is a great source of accurate info for those who are objective.
And, by the way, as a follow-up alternative media reported days after the “Russia bombs school” story that the “people” they found in the rubble were uniform wearing Ukrainian soldiers (something YOUR source never bothered to reveal.) Ukrainians routinely position their troops in schools, hospitals, shopping malls, train stations....anywhere where they can use civilians as shields which is a WAR CRIME.
Now here is some more FACTUAL information about the current situation on the battlefield.
“In the course of a special military operation, the enemy suffers significant losses . So, since May 19, for a month of fighting, the 14th mechanized brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine alone has lost more than 2,100 people killed and wounded. Due to the low moral and psychological state of 800 people intended to make up for the losses of this formation, they refused to go to the combat area , accusing the officers of incompetence, bribery and nepotism in the payment of monetary allowances.
◽️In the 10th mountain assault brigade, about 100 military personnel of the reconnaissance unit were removed from combat missions due to mass disobedience to the command and taken to Kremenchug for investigation.
◽️ A significant part of the commanders of the 30th mechanized brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine have withdrawn from the management of their units and are evading combat missions. Any pretexts for simulating diseases are used. In most units of the brigade, not a single officer was left.
#Ministry of Defense #Russia #Ukraine @mod_russia
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“factual information; not cheerleading.”
I sincerely believe your comments are accurate. Unfortunately, your sources reduce your comments to mere cheerleading.
“When I tried to point out to you that the “school” was a base for Ukrainian troops (there were no children there)”
You were not correctly informed. The children took refuge in the school basement.
BTW, Your “author of the blog is a former United States marine who fought for our country; but became so disillusioned when he discovered what was really going on he felt he couldn’t even live here anymore.” Is quite a Benedict Arnold.
Glad he doesn’t live in U.S. anymore!
CORRECTION:
I sincerely believe YOU BELIEVE your comments are accurate.
SOURCE:
[The author of the blog is a former United States marine who fought for our country; but became so disillusioned when he discovered what was really going on he felt he couldn’t even live here anymore.]
Again your information is incorrect. Ukrainian schools were not in session because of the war. And, of course, neither YOU nor your SOURCE ever reported that the dead were Ukrainian soldiers. If you actually believe what you just said you need to ask yourself WHY would the Ukainian troops base in a children’s school with children there? I assume you must not believe that or you would be very critical of troops setting up their firing positions with children present...right?
If you feel that the Russian information is inaccurate you should point out those inaccuracies. You never do. Perhaps that is because you never read anything that may not agree with you. I posted a long list of all the battle events that happened yesterday, please inform us of any that were incorrect.
I read 25 different sites from both sides and both the Ukrainian and Russian daily briefings every single day. I actually spend most of my day on this subject because I believe the United States (via the Deep State) is committing suicide and as a patriotic American this is to me the most important issue of our times and will affect the rest of my life.
And in doing so I have come to discover that Russian info is actually always accurate with the one exception that they do not post negative events unless it is to correct disinformation from Ukraine.
Example: Ukraine is wildly cheering that they shot down a Russian plane. It is understandable that they would be since this is rare. But, after investigation of the plane Russia finds it is an Ukrainian plane. They shot down their own plane. I have posted messages from the pro-Ukrainian site with inside info from the OP which disclosed that Zelensky asked the Pentagon not to talk about their mistake.
Last, but not least, it is disappointing that you consider telling the truth being a “Benedict Arnold.” If all America has left is quashing truth and promoting B.S we are in more trouble that we even realized.
“According to the BBC’s sources, Wagner as well as volunteer MoD and Rosgvardia units are now Russia’s primary assault forces in Ukraine.”
“They identified at least 155 Russian volunteers who have been killed in Ukraine. Of these 155, 57% of them were 40 years old or older and 25% are over 50 years old or older. “
82% over age of 40. Crazy.
This individual you site as “Disenchanted U.S. soldier: does NOT report truth! Actually, he is worse than being “Benedict Arnold.”
I only respond to you because TRUTH is important!
I do see you as “quashing truth and promoting B.S’ which does lead the U.S. public to be ‘in more trouble than we even realize.’
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PLEASE UNDERSTAND: TOWNS PEOPLE INCLUDING CHILDREN TOOK REFUGE IN SCHOOLS FROM EVIL 'PUS-TIN'S' BOMBING OF CIVILIANS! MAYBE THIS ARTICLE WILL HELP: https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/bombing-school-ukrainian-town-kills-two-60-more-under-debris-governor-2022-05-08/
I see that again you provide not one single piece of info or evidence about any inaccuracy despite being specifically asked to.
By your own admission you haven’t read the former marine’s blog but assert in capital letters he does not report truth.
You accuse me of quashing truth and promoting B.S. despite again not providing one single piece of inaccurate info from me.
Okay, you have made it clear. You do not report truth and you have no interest in it, but a lot of scorn for people who do report truth.
Who is the former Mrine and what is the blog?
MAYBE THIS ARTICLE WILL HELP: https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/bombing-school-ukrainian-town-kills-two-60-more-under-debris-governor-2022-05-08/
The Orlon 10 is much smaller compared to the TB2. The cameras shown are a modified Canon SLR and a French Lynred Pico640Gen2 thermal imaging camera in fixed positions. It is too small to have stabilized cameras. The TB2 can use Canadian L3Harris Wescam WESCAM MX-15D, Turkish Aselsan CAT, or German Hensoldt ARGOS-II. These have military grade FLIR, electroopitcal cameras and laser targeting in gimbal turrets.
These are different drones for different missions and not directly comparable. The Orlon 10 is used closer to Russian front lines. As long as it gives some early warning and finds targets for Russian artillery, its done its job. Its lower cost and higher chance of getting shot down works for Russian use. The TB2 is a higher performance, more capable drone able to threaten Russian warships. It costs a lot more so losing one hurts Ukraine more.
For their intended roles and use by opposing sides, both work.
[BTW, Your “author of the blog is a former United States marine who fought for our country; but became so disillusioned when he discovered what was really going on he felt he couldn’t even live here anymore.” Is quite a Benedict Arnold.
Glad he doesn’t live in U.S. anymore!]
[The Orlon 10 is much smaller compared to the TB2. The cameras shown are a modified Canon SLR and a French Lynred Pico640Gen2 thermal imaging camera in fixed positions. It is too small to have stabilized cameras. The TB2 can use Canadian L3Harris Wescam WESCAM MX-15D, Turkish Aselsan CAT, or German Hensoldt ARGOS-II. These have military grade FLIR, electroopitcal cameras and laser targeting in gimbal turrets.
These are different drones for different missions and not directly comparable. The Orlon 10 is used closer to Russian front lines. As long as it gives some early warning and finds targets for Russian artillery, its done its job. Its lower cost and higher chance of getting shot down works for Russian use. The TB2 is a higher performance, more capable drone able to threaten Russian warships. It costs a lot more so losing one hurts Ukraine more.
For their intended roles and use by opposing sides, both work.]
Regardless of what they do with drones, though, a 10 to 1 artillery disadvantage would presumably not be something they can overcome by just getting the same ratio of drones to guns as the Russians.
The Predator drones are being used. Pretty much a small, reusuable, miniature cruise missile to drop modified mortar sized muntions out to 30 miles. Some sources claim three muntions can be carried, so far I have only seen pictures with one bomb. Reports are that a "Spectre" drone is used for scouting and initial targeting before the Predator attacks. Hunter-Killer teamwork ususally increases success rates and reduces losses. The Spectre drone's recon ability is likely as important as the Predator's bomb droping.
Links:
Simon Whistler gives a good background on it. Megaprojects, May 30, The Punisher Drone: The Ukrainian Drone that Russia Hates.
Crux, YouTube, Feb 21, 2022. Ukraine Unleashes ‘Punisher’ Stealth Attack Drone Amid Fear Of War With Putin’s Russia
City AM, March 8, 2022: Ukraine’s secret weapon: High-tech drone ‘the Punisher’ is wreaking havoc far behind Russian enemy lines (pictures are of different drones).
The Sun Feb. 15, 2022: DRONE WARS Ukraine unveils fearsome stealth ‘Punisher’ drones to rain death on Russian forces if Putin invades
DroneXL, March 3, 2022, Punisher drones are positively game-changing for Ukrainian military in fight against Russia
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