Russia will win in Ukraine even if NATO got involved. It would be another Vietnam, at best, for NATO. And, never mind the possibility of WWIII where NATO is facing both Russia and China.
“Russia will win in Ukraine even if NATO got involved.”
Then why hasn’t Soviet Russia already won? According to you and your buddies big, bad Russia is so awesome it can take on all of NATO and win, yet the vaunted Red Army is getting eviscerated by a third rate military power in Ukraine.
Seriously, once the scumbag Russians ran headlong into flaming death at Hostomel the war was over for Russia.