Posted on 05/24/2022 8:38:28 AM PDT by Macho MAGA Man
“If you don’t learn from the past you will repeat the same mistakes.”
Exactly. We want to eliminate all the fraud.
There is a way to prove that enough ballots were improperly vetted that could have altered the outcome of the election.
Every fraudulent ballot dropped can be matched to a registered voter.
What has not been done is to match envelope signatures (envelopes were supposed to be retained for just such an audit) with those signatures on file. This has been done only on a very limited basis, and consistently 3-4% were found to not even be close to a match.
Are you going to ask voters if and how they voted? Well, that is illegal.
It is not illegal, but it wouldn't prove anything since you don't have any way to line up a specific ballot to a specific voter. But what you can do is ask voters if they cast a mail-in vote, and reconcile that with the mail-in votes received. Again, this has not been done on a large scale, but where it has been done the discrepancies are about 3-4% say they didn't vote yet a ballot was cast in their name.
The system of fraud being used cannot be easily revealed unless you catch people in the act of dropping ballots into boxes.
Even catching people in the act of stuffing drop boxes will not reveal fraud. You would have to seize the ballots and get a court order to open them, and then confirm with each registered voter that they did indeed fill out that ballot and give it to the "mule." A lot of investigation to occur only days from an election.
Even then, Democrats will claim that this is OK.
In some states such as California, it is perfectly legal for one person to collect ballots from voters and deliver them to a drop box. In other states, only relatives are allowed to do so. But in no state is it legal to pay someone to collect ballots and deliver them to a drop box.
What Trump and everyone needs to do is eliminate the source of the fraud....vote by mail as well as scrub all voter registration rolls.
Scrub the election rolls, absolutely. But no court will allow the disenfranchisement of those unable to go to a polling place. There MUST be a means for absentee voting.
My proposal is to forfeit the right to a secret ballot if you choose to vote by absentee ballot and cannot turn it into the clerk's office where ID can be checked. If you insist on using either a drop box or mail to return your ballot, then the ballot inside will be tied to an individual voter by a serial number code that can only be accessed by authorized election personnel.
Then if the eligibility of a specific mail-in ballot is successfully challenged, its votes can be subtracted from the overall tally.
“There is no way to prove the election was stolen.”
Let’s not believe our lying eyes. Plenty of ways, start arresting and charging people. They’ll talk for a reduced sentence.
https://rumble.com/v15had7-exclusive-video-from-detroit-shows-ballot-traffickers-in-action.html
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Unfortunately there is no Constitutional mechanism that would allow such a thing at this late date, and I myself would oppose any attempt to do so.
My oath when I went into the military was to protect and defend THE CONSTITUTION, and the constitution has only a few very specifically spelled out ways to remove a sitting President, and who would replace that removed President. None of those ways include "decertifying" an election.
Trump is not on that list of replacements of a removed President, unless he decides to become Speaker of the House.
In fairness to Varney, the GP headline misrepresents what Varney said. He didn't say "Republicans want...", as the headline implies. He said "a number of Republicans have said to me", which has quite a different meaning.
So he wasn't claiming to speak for all republicans. He was just bringing up the point of view of some Republicans, which is entirely fair.
Regarding the 'stolen' election there is the one group of people that refuse to review any of the documentation or facts while declaring 'there is nothing to see; time to move on'. The election is over and Biden was elected, fair and square while the other group of people have been following this since election night; reviewing all the documentation, and video footage and know full well that the election was stolen.
There will never be a consensus; there will never be any agreement...ever.
Who asked him to speak for us?
Steve K. Bannon is right. WE HAVE to get to the bottom of what went on Election Night. The evidence of 2000 Mules can NOT be ignored, neither the cover up of Russia Gate or the LapTop from Hell. Let’s be bold, daring and demanding that we get to the bottom of what happened.. THEN we can heal. But the cowards who refused to push back and insist that transparency be ignorned need to be removed all of them. APPEAL TO HEAVEN was a theme on Jan. 6th, AND IT WAS NOT AN INSURRECTION. It was a statement of appeal for OUR elected leaders to gather evidence, take to courts, and prosecute the horrible way the election was stolen. Me and a million more shout VERIFY
If the 2020 election needs to be delegitimized based on vote/ballot fraud and voter fraud, so be it.
We definitely need to chart a course toward rooting out that corruption and ensuring that our future national elections are demonstrably, transparently, legitimate.
How strongly committed are you to actually decertifying past elections if you are convinced that the aforementioned fraud has been rooted out and won’t reoccur?
FWIW, I think I can see that any answer to this last question may be wrapped up in the question of consequences. Some people may feel as if the threat of decertifying a fraudulently-conducted national election needs to be present in order to deter individuals and groups who would otherwise blow through every stop sign and red light to ensure that when it comes to such elections, the fix is always in, 100% baked into the cake.
That is the exact point that should have been made versus the absolutist aim that the election was actually stolen. Saying that the election was not trustworthy is going to be a heck of a lot more palatable to voters than telling him that it was actually stolen, which is the moment at at which a lot of voters tune you out.
Those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it
“America doesn’t like sore losers“
I see your point but is Trump to just “let it go”? A Presidential election was stolen. The problem is the entire media establishment and the ruling class crushes and ridicules any attempt to expose the truth. I think Trump should keep it as an issue but with restraint until the firewall breaks and the truth come out in at least one state.
I want to know if Trump runs he will focus on the future. I’m not confident. It’s all about him and 2020.
Perhaps you have forgotten, but Trump did call for a signature audit of Fulton County, Georgia in November of 2020, but Georgia secretary of state RATzenberger ordered the signature audit of Cobb County (Marietta, a suburb of Atlanta) instead, and to nobody's surprise, no problems were found.
But Fulton County (Atlanta) is where the problems were, and nobody ever looked at Fulton's signatures.
Stuart is a stock pumper. He talks frequently about his stock holdings on his daily show. I find that a bit inappropriate to say the least.
Fox Business is really no different from CNBC. Both are stock-pumping informercials.
It’s all Deep State Media. DSM. Nobody on the networks talks about the real problems of the economy and the coming disaster, analyzing and assigning blame where it’s due. Everything is hunky-dory.
Every fraudulent ballot dropped can be matched to a registered voter. Yeah, even the ballots of comatose and the dead. (Except for the ballots that were unsigned, duplicated and dropped in multiple ballot boxes.)
The system of fraud being used cannot be easily revealed unless you catch people in the act of dropping ballots into boxes. Geotracking and video HAS caught people in the act of going to at least 10 ballot boxes.
Trump will never prove the fraud. But he can champion election integrity. The fraud has been proven.
Watch the full story:
https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/2000-mules-watch-the-full-movie/
With all due respect, I think you are missing the point of many of us who disagree. The issue is not that we are worried about the country being unable to "heal". It is that what you believe has been discovered is completely irrelevant unless you are able to get a majority of voters to buy into what you are selling. And that is not going to happen because they have already decided that the hardcore types are nutty.
The truth is that the vast majority of people will never see 2000 Mules. That's just a fact that isn't going to change no matter how loudly you urge people to see it. . It is preaching to the already converted, and the already converted are not enough to make the necessary changes.
Being right isn't enough. The message has to be presented in such a way that people will be willing to listen, and as soon as you start going off that the election was fraudulent and that Trump should really be President, you've already lost the majority of people. That is not going to change.
The message needs to be that our elections need to be more trustworthy. That is a general enough statement that you can get most people to agree with it, and then start going into the ways to make it more trustworthy by pointing out some of the things like unsigned or undated ballots from the last election. I think many Americans don't like the idea of ballot still being counted a week after the election, and believe they should be able to know the result on the night of the election. Emphasize that with voters, and tell them that we have to tighten up the rules for absentee voting for that to happen. If presented that way, you may be able to get enough political support to actually make these changes happen.
Screaming from the rooftops that Trump was robbed, and that every American needs to see 2000 Mules is not going to convince enough people to make a difference.
The problem with Stuart Varney is that there are two Americas now, one that supports the Globalist fascist agenda, and one that supports the America First agenda, and it’s clear which side he speaks for.
Maybe S Varney is right. Maybe we should ignore the Alamo and try to just look to a future of orderly, if fake, elections. I am sure that will lead us to prosperity!
Of course, the above is total sarcasm. If the Texans had shrugged and put the Alamo behind them, there wouldn’t be a Texas—among the greatest of states.
We have the evidence. Election corruption goes back many decades and 2020 was the worst. Americans have earned fair elections. We deserve representative government. Settle for no less.
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