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To: McGavin999

A LOT of folks here are misinformed and have an anti Ukraine venom that is misplaced.

Putin is our enemy, and Biden’s weakness led to a disaster.

Ukraine and Zelensky are our friends.


8 posted on 03/09/2022 4:25:59 PM PST by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: Williams

They both suck until they can get their act together they deserve what they get.


11 posted on 03/09/2022 4:35:49 PM PST by dforest
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To: Williams
I don't think this should be a contest about which leader or country we like better.

When I was in the Army I was prepared to go to war against soldiers from both countries, so I have no special affinity.

To me, this is real simple. Putin is running a war of aggression and conquest against a neighboring country. If he succeeds, instead of being a few hundred miles away, he will have Russian troops on the borders of Poland and Romania, two allies. He is upsetting the balance of power that has existed since the end of the Cold War. Ukraine, in contrast, has never threatened its neighbors.

It is in the United States' interest, especially from a national security perspective, that Ukraine stop Putin. I don't advocate military intervention or sending US troops, but there is still a lot we can do to help Ukraine and we should.

12 posted on 03/09/2022 4:38:02 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: Williams

The reason this happened is because we have become an unserious country with too many people thinking politics is a team sport. My heart breaks for the Ukrainians and actually for the Russian people as well.
The Ukrainians will live through incredible devastation but they will come through this. The Russian people will live with shame of this destruction for decades.


13 posted on 03/09/2022 4:38:20 PM PST by McGavin999 (To shut down the border tell the administration the cartel is smuggling Ivermectin )
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To: Williams
Zelensky, the 'Al Franken' of Ukraine.

Here is his 'diaper' and 'breast-cupping' moment...


17 posted on 03/09/2022 4:49:38 PM PST by C210N (Everything will be okay in the end. If it’s not okay, it’s not the end.)
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To: Williams
I've been reading Zelensky is a Soros puppet, has put people who speak out against him in jail and put anti-aircraft guns on the roofs of hospitals and school.

I DON'T HAVE A CLUE WHAT IS FACT VS. FICTION!

I occasionally run into Ukrainians at work. I'll start asking them what they think.

Prior to this, they all thought Putin would never do this

18 posted on 03/09/2022 4:55:02 PM PST by lizma2
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To: Williams

“Ukraine and Zelensky are our friends.”

Ludicrous fantasy.


26 posted on 03/09/2022 5:23:15 PM PST by Mariner (War criminal #18)
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To: Williams

You’d do well to read a different point of view about the Russia/Ukraine war.
bit.ly/3IXxKZ9


28 posted on 03/09/2022 5:25:13 PM PST by tomsbartoo (St Pius X watch over us)
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To: Williams

Ukraine and Zelensky are our friends.

No there not

Here the root cause...Crimea and Sevastopol

It about as Strategically important to they Russian as any place in their entire country and historical never was never part of Ukraine till the Communism government trader to to Ukraine in 1954 for administration reasons ...it had been Russian for 300 years

Population

65.3% Russians (1.492 mln)
15.1% Ukrainians (344.5 thousand)

So why went the USSR fell (The “Union of Soviet Socialistic Republics” its was not Russian it was one of the Republic)

Lands that the Communism took from non Russian areas got to have free choice.. but land taken from Russian with majority Russian population and historical Russian.. don’t get free will to rejoins Russian?

And let be clean this has been issue for YEARS...Crimea and the Russian Ukraine border area that are major Russian..want to be Russian.. have Voted to Be Russian.. have treats between Ukraine and Russian to Guarantee them some autonomy and none of that’s been honored by Ukraine ....instead Ukraine been killing Russian in this area est 14000 in the last 8 years...
And add the the Neo Nazi Ukrainian (really more of anti Russian KKK had be harassing and killing ethnic Russian

So right up the the invasion.. it was the Ukraine and the west in the wrong

Or was it EVER logical that a large majority Russian area that contain one of Russia most Strategic location Sevastopol home of the Black Sea Fleet that Russia has been fighting over for over 300 years (that way before Putin).. that Russia would let that go to NATO with out a fight?..and way is Ukraine fredoms to be with the west to be with the west must be respected.. but the Russian area of Ukraine that were historical Russian.. they don’t have any right to rejoins Russia? ...

The US has States and during the Civil War West Virginia split from Virginia, Maine was once part of Massachusetts...the Oregon territories were in dispute between The US and the UK (Canada) ..remember 54.40 or fight!...they finally split on the 49 Parallel.. and i had family at that time that came over in a rowboat to move from above the 49 parallel to below to stay on the American side

So why not Ukraine and Russia Ukraine..let the people in these regions expressed that Free will

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Sevastopol the largest city in Crimea and a major port on the Black Sea. Due to its strategic location and the navigability of the city’s harbours, Sevastopol has been an important port and naval base throughout its history. Since the city’s founding in 1783 it has been a major base for Russia’s Black Sea Fleet, and it was previously a closed city during the Cold War.

https://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2014/02/27/283481587/crimea-a-gift-to-ukraine-becomes-a-political-flash-point

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimea

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sevastopol


35 posted on 03/09/2022 5:51:56 PM PST by tophat9000 (Tophat9000)
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To: Williams

Ukraine and Zelensky are our friends.

No there not

Here the root cause...Crimea and Sevastopol

It about as Strategically important to they Russian as any place in their entire country and historical never was never part of Ukraine till the Communism government trader to to Ukraine in 1954 for administration reasons ...it had been Russian for 300 years

Population

65.3% Russians (1.492 mln)
15.1% Ukrainians (344.5 thousand)

So why went the USSR fell (The “Union of Soviet Socialistic Republics” its was not Russian it was one of the Republic)

Lands that the Communism took from non Russian areas got to have free choice.. but land taken from Russian with majority Russian population and historical Russian.. don’t get free will to rejoins Russian?

And let be clean this has been issue for YEARS...Crimea and the Russian Ukraine border area that are major Russian..want to be Russian.. have Voted to Be Russian.. have treats between Ukraine and Russian to Guarantee them some autonomy and none of that’s been honored by Ukraine ....instead Ukraine been killing Russian in this area est 14000 in the last 8 years...
And add the the Neo Nazi Ukrainian (really more of anti Russian KKK had be harassing and killing ethnic Russian

So right up the the invasion.. it was the Ukraine and the west in the wrong

Or was it EVER logical that a large majority Russian area that contain one of Russia most Strategic location Sevastopol home of the Black Sea Fleet that Russia has been fighting over for over 300 years (that way before Putin).. that Russia would let that go to NATO with out a fight?..why is Ukraine freedom of choice to be with the west must be respected.. but the Russian area of Ukraine that were historical Russian.. they don’t have any right to rejoins Russia? ...

The US has States and during the Civil War West Virginia split from Virginia, Maine was once part of Massachusetts...the Oregon territories were in dispute between The US and the UK (Canada) ..remember 54.40 or fight!...they finally split on the 49 Parallel.. and i had family at that time that came over in a rowboat to move from above the 49 parallel to below to stay on the American side

So why not Ukraine and Russia Ukraine..let the people in these regions expressed that Free will

≈=====
Sevastopol the largest city in Crimea and a major port on the Black Sea. Due to its strategic location and the navigability of the city’s harbours, Sevastopol has been an important port and naval base throughout its history. Since the city’s founding in 1783 it has been a major base for Russia’s Black Sea Fleet, and it was previously a closed city during the Cold War.

https://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2014/02/27/283481587/crimea-a-gift-to-ukraine-becomes-a-political-flash-point

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimea

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sevastopol


36 posted on 03/09/2022 5:54:18 PM PST by tophat9000 (Tophat9000)
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To: Williams

“Ukraine and Zelensky are our friends.”


I’m personally rooting for Ukraine (my father’s parents were both born there), and I like Zelenskyy...but it *really* gives me pause when George Soros is also on their side and rooting against Russia (which, under Putin, has resisted the NWO/Reset crowd). Just saying - because politics definitely makes for strange bedfellows.


38 posted on 03/09/2022 5:59:55 PM PST by Ancesthntr (“The right to buy weapons is the right to be free.” ― A.E. Van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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