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To: colorado tanker; All

Identify any US vital interest in Ukeland.
Not protecting democracy or NATO, but a direct interest akin to closing our southern border and getting serious about energy independence or pushing the wetbacks who have invaded us out.
If Russia could reassemble its former east Block it would be of no real interest. The Cold War was conducted against the USSR and communism’s historically unique emnity against all other regimes. The Soviet Union is gone and it’s ideology as well. This is just a typical chapter in great power politics. Let the Europeans deal with it and let the US depart to mind it’s own business and it’s very serious internal problems


23 posted on 03/09/2022 5:11:11 PM PST by robowombat (Orth, all )
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To: robowombat
Identify any US vital interest in Ukeland.

Keeping Putin away from the Polish border. Depriving Putin of 40+ million new population and valuable mineral and industrial interests. He would be immensely more powerful and dangerous.

44 posted on 03/09/2022 6:38:19 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: robowombat

Finally someone speaks sense.

Thank you.

L


50 posted on 03/09/2022 9:16:51 PM PST by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: robowombat; colorado tanker; Romulus; plain talk; Republican in occupied CA; x; Red Badger; ...

How on earth can you say the Soviet Union is gone and it’s IDEOLOGY AS WELL. That is exactly the problem. Putin is restoring the earlier police state mentality of the USSR, and wants to restore these borders. Do you really think that Poland would be working so hard to help Ukraine if they were not afraid of having the USSR back in position to control them? Russia is already parked on the other side of “Niagara Falls” along the Baltic countries. If Putin takes Ukraine, he will also be on the other side of Niagara Falls with Poland, Slovakia, Hungary, etc. None of those countries want Putin a few steps away from their liberated countries. They remember the secret police, the torture, etc. that were commonplace under the old Soviet control, which Putin seeks to continue before he dies, probably of cancer.

Do you think the Ukrainians would be fighting so hard if they did not have bitter memories of the old Soviet regime and see Putin as its active symbol? If Putin succeeds, Europe will probably end up in a nasty mess that we will have to get involved in for our own survival. Last time it was Japan that finally got us into the European war. This time it no doubt would be China that would achieve the same result if we did manage to stay out.


51 posted on 03/10/2022 4:33:43 AM PST by gleeaikin (ould the , vitamins,Question authority!)
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