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Indiana Judiciary Committee Guts Constitutional Carry Bill
AmmoLand ^ | February 25, 2022 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 02/28/2022 3:27:21 PM PST by marktwain

What follows is this correspondent’s view of what happened at the Indiana Senate Judiciary Committee hearing and vote on February 23, 2022. The hearing was on HB 1077, Constitutional Carry. There were about eight hours of testimony at the hearing. This correspondent did not watch all of it. The impressions gained by watching a couple of hours of the hearing, and the votes, have been supplemented with comments from the Indiana Gun Owners Forum, where members watched most of the hearing and votes.

The Chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, Liz Brown (R) was openly hostile to the bill. The Judiciary Committee was where Constitutional Carry was killed in 2021. The committee hearing was orchestrated to create publicity and cover for Republicans to kill the bill. Chairman Brown was openly more favorable to the three Democrats on the Committee than to the Republicans.

The opposition appeared to have been given prior notice of when the committee would be held. The hearing was packed with opposition. Several officers from Wayne, Indiana testified. The impression was the opposition was given plenty of notice to prepare and be ready for a Wednesday afternoon hearing, before the hearing was officially announced. Both sides were represented.

This correspondent did not see much of the testimony in favor of the bill.

Indiana State Police Superintendent Doug Carter testified against the bill. Carter was appointed to the position by Indiana Governor Holcombe (R) From indianagunowners.com:

To sample some of the egregious comments by Indiana State Police (ISP) superintendent Doug Carter, he attacked the legislative process in IN because a bill came forward that he dislikes and that we allow public comments that he disapproves of, attacked the republican party for being a super majority and claimed that the committee was stifling the minority


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An impressive feat of skulldugery by Indiana Republicans.

Put the bill to the same committee where it was killed last year, with the same Chair (after the primary is over). The Chair (Liz Brown, Republican) does every thing she can to kill the bill.

She gets an amendment in to gut the bill.

It is appealed to the rules committee.

It goes to the Rules committee, which then rules - too late to get the bill into the committee this year...

1 posted on 02/28/2022 3:27:21 PM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain
There are 39 Republican members of the Senate and 11 Democrat members of the Senate.

The Senate leader is Bray. The president pro Tem of the Senate is Rodric Bray.

2 posted on 02/28/2022 3:31:43 PM PST by marktwain (Amazing people can read a persons entire personality and character from one photograph.)
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Please... someone.. Anyone..
Tell me why when an issue that basically restores our constitutional rights, it is always the republiCANT’s that kill the bill...


3 posted on 02/28/2022 3:32:07 PM PST by joe fonebone (And the people said NO! The End)
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To: marktwain

Governor Holcombe is said to be strongly against Constitutional Carry behind the scenes.


4 posted on 02/28/2022 3:32:28 PM PST by marktwain (Amazing people can read a persons entire personality and character from one photograph.)
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Assistant Democrats gonna Assist...


5 posted on 02/28/2022 3:33:46 PM PST by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: joe fonebone
Please... someone.. Anyone.. Tell me why when an issue that basically restores our constitutional rights, it is always the republiCANT’s that kill the bill...

Your assumption is false.

20 states have passed Constitutional Carry. It was passed by Republicans in every one of them.

What you see is fake Republicans being shown up for what they are.

6 posted on 02/28/2022 3:39:19 PM PST by marktwain (Amazing people can read a persons entire personality and character from one photograph.)
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I live in Michiganstan.. where republiCANT’S have run the legislature for over 20 years...
Constitutional carry made it to the governor desk once...
Only to be vetoed by a republican governor...

republiCANT’S suck canal water


7 posted on 02/28/2022 3:44:56 PM PST by joe fonebone (And the people said NO! The End)
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To: joe fonebone
Keep the pressure on.

You will get it.

I have been in the fight for over 50 years. We have made significant progress.

Yes, to have Republicans stab us in the back hurts, badly.

Vote em out of office at the primary.

Eventually, the RINOs will be gone.

8 posted on 02/28/2022 3:48:00 PM PST by marktwain (Amazing people can read a persons entire personality and character from one photograph.)
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To: marktwain

Holcomb is a pro-mask mandate lunatic on top of it.

He’s a Republican sheepdog for statism.


9 posted on 02/28/2022 3:59:09 PM PST by oblomov
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To: marktwain

A real, paying state taxes, hoosier here.

I really does not matter much in Indiana and honestly it is about the only state rep talking point left on the agenda. The lifetime CCW and NRA branded plates are typically a get out speed trap taxes with all but the greedy town cops.

Leaving the controversys so supported by the indy-star to make the education unions sound fat, dumb and greedy is the only real priority this session.

Once Constitutional carry is done, it going to be MJ decriminalization that the old time republicans are going to push around every session because it is the golden goose of indiana politics.


10 posted on 02/28/2022 3:59:55 PM PST by protoconservative (Been Conservative Before You Were Born )
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To: marktwain

Huh.

My local news station has a commercial that claims ‘ they’ are keeping me safe.

Indiana must have one of those news stations too ./s.


11 posted on 02/28/2022 4:02:27 PM PST by cuz1961 (USCGR Veteran )
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A citizens Initiative to outlaw Hired Guns would fix this.

Any person granted a privilege to keep and bear arms, without being infringed. Shall be Prohibited and Guilty of a Felony punishable by a Mandatory 10 years in Prison, for using that privilege for the purpose of security, protection or defense of others for compensation or gain.

Police have NO LEGAL DUTY to protect the citizenry, see Supreme Court. This would not affect their Police Duties in any way since they have NO LEGAL DUTY


12 posted on 02/28/2022 4:06:22 PM PST by eyeamok (founded in cynicism, wrapped in sarcasm)
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Lots of names for the “list” as a result of this action...


13 posted on 02/28/2022 4:46:32 PM PST by SuperLuminal (Where is another Sam Adams now that we desperately need him?)
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To: marktwain

We MUST STOP electing and re-electing Bush League Republicans.


14 posted on 02/28/2022 5:15:30 PM PST by Lurkinanloomin ( (Natural born citizens are born here of citizen parents)(Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: joe fonebone

You were saying:

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4045074/posts


15 posted on 03/09/2022 5:09:16 AM PST by TexasGurl24
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To: kiryandil

Looks like the “assistant democrats” passed the bill.

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4045074/posts


16 posted on 03/09/2022 5:09:41 AM PST by TexasGurl24
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To: marktwain

I would like wider emphasis on laws to protect people who have to use their guns in self defense, to protect against political and racist prosecutions.


17 posted on 03/09/2022 5:14:32 AM PST by SauronOfMordor (A Leftist can't enjoy life unless they are controlling, hurting, or destroying others)
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To: TexasGurl24; joe fonebone
LOL!

Looks like they don't Assist as much when The Eye Of Scrutiny is upon them...  winking face face with tears of joy face with tears of joy

18 posted on 03/09/2022 8:58:29 AM PST by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: kiryandil

Do you think actual Democrats would have done better?


19 posted on 03/09/2022 9:23:26 AM PST by TexasGurl24
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