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To: Penelope Dreadful; rxsid
Should you actually read Wong Kim Ark, it will explain that all to you! But I suspect that it will do not good for you to read it, because, like The Sovereign Citizen, you will never admit that you are wrong.

Let us find out which of us is more like the "Sovereign Citizen."

Here is an excerpt from Wong Kim Ark. (Paragraph 113)

"Every person born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, becomes at once a citizen of the United States, and needs no naturalization. A person born out of the jurisdiction of the United States can only become a citizen by being naturalized, either by treaty, as in the case of the annexation of foreign territory, or by authority of congress, exercised either by declaring certain classes of persons to be citizens, as in the enactments conferring citizenship upon foreign-born children of citizens, or by n abling foreigners individually to become citizens by proceedings in the judicial tribunals, as in the ordinary provisions of the naturalization acts."

You will die and go to Hell before you ever admit that the fringe on the flag is meaningless,

Nah, i'll do that right now. The fringe on a flag is meaningless. That whole business about it being an "admirality flag" is just silly crap. I've never believed that and I don't grasp why anyone would.

Nope. Birther and Sovereign Citizens were transexuals in mindset before trannies became a thing - self identifying as whatever based on their subjective whims.

That sounds like propaganda. I can't speak for others, but when this stuff broke, I researched it myself, and along with the research from others, I learned a great deal about it's origins and how it's meaning changed over the years.

One of our number even found a law book from early 1800s Pennsylvania that explicitly says the meaning comes from Vattel. Rxsid are you out there?

105 posted on 02/28/2022 2:23:18 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp

The idea that the only way a person can be an NBC is by having 2 citizen parents is the Birthers’ “fringe on the flag.” It is an idea with no basis in law or in fact. In fact, even a cursory reading of the aforementioned Vattel, will reveal (2 or 3 paragraphs down from the stuff Birthers have naughty dreams, that there is a whole ‘nother way to make NBCs, as in England.

But none of that matter to Birthers. Because the 2 citizen parent nonsense is the Fringe on the flag, and come hell or high water, there is no way that a Birther can change their mind, Because like Sovereign Citizens, trannies, furries, and Social Justice Warriors - Birthers live inside their own head, in a world of delusion. It is a form of mental illness, that manifests itself in some people. It may pop out in different ways, but at the root, Birthers and People who think they can change their sex on a whim, or Antifa members - are the same people mindset wise. Do you understand that?

Do you understand that Antifa and the old Women’s Christian Temperance Union and the Red Guard and the Spanish Inquisition - that they have the same mindset? If you can grok that, then maybe you could take a good long look at yourself, and see Bubba, the Sovereign Citizen, staring back at you. You will have to cure yourself, because I am not aware of any therapists having much luck with people who make up their own cardboard license tags crowd.


139 posted on 02/28/2022 3:51:20 PM PST by Penelope Dreadful (And there is Pansies, that's for Thoughts.)
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