Posted on 02/28/2022 5:38:24 AM PST by Rennes Templar
The Western media is filled with stories of the brave Ukrainian people rising up to fight the evil Russians and the Russians are paying a terrible toll, or so we are told. But if you step back and look at what is actually transpiring you will note the following:
Unlike the U.S. “shock and awe” unleashed on Baghdad in 2003, which caused significant civilian casualties and destroyed infrastructure and damaged power grids and destroyed bridges, the Russian military is avoiding hitting population centers. The power is still on in Kiev and Kharkiv last I checked.
You are not seeing raging battles in the streets of Kiev or Kharkov between Ukrainian and Russian military forces.
Some believe this indicates Putin’s troops are bogged down and making little progress. But I think there is an alternative explanation. First, Russia has not deployed its most sophisticated weaponry. It remains in place in Russia on the Ukrainian border but showing no signs as of this writing of being activated. Second, little attention is being paid to eastern Ukraine where the bulk of the Ukrainian Army is deployed. Jacob Dreizin offers some important insight on this:
You won’t hear this on CNN, but Putin’s Army of Darkness, in the most complex and ambitious ground maneuver operation since World War 2, following the Soviet “deep war” playbook, is also working on cutting off the Ukrainian army group in the Donbass from Kiev. This is by far the most capable (or only capable) large portion of the Ukrainian army. Yesterday, its main reserves of diesel fuel were destroyed from the air. It will soon be cut off and immobile.
Once that happens, the entire Donbass front collapses (they will no longer have a “front”), and BILLIONS of dollars in U.S.-funded or U.S.-supplied weaponry will be captured almost without a battle. (To be clear, it’s almost all U.S. funded or supplied—even most of the Soviet vintage stuff was bought and shipped in from Poland, Czechia, etc. by the CIA, “off the books” but well documented in videos of tank trains crossing the border into Ukraine, in 2015-2016.)
The Russians have finally entered Kharkov, Ukraine’s second largest city, very close to the Russian border. Previously, they had bypassed it the same way that America bypassed every town in southern Iraq to reach Baghdad in 2003. On Saturday night, they finally wasted all significant, organized resistance with a rain of thermobaric death in the outskirts. Today, they started to go in and mop up. Of course, it’s not a job for one day.
The Ukrainian army is falling back (mostly in organized fashion) throughout the Donbass. They have largely evacuated Mariupol, a very pro-Russian, major steelmaking and steel-shipping center (responsible for billions of dollars in exports) on the Sea of Azov. The sole garrison in Mariupol is now said to be the Azov regiment, a group of bona fide, tattooed Nazis—you know, your typical Ukrainian democracy guys, the ones the MSM doesn’t tell you about, and our State Department prefers to ignore. The kind of guys you must use to garrison a pro-Russian city that hates you.
The “real” army looks to be falling back to Dnepropetrovsk, about 60 miles west of Donetsk, if the Russians don’t cut them off—that’s now the big “if.” Either way, they’ll get hit badly from the air.
They are leaving behind lots of brand spanking new, British and American weaponry. I wish I had time to make a photo collage for you. It turns out, the stuff doesn’t work well. Among other things, you have to charge the battery on those Javelins or whatever. No charge, no fire. No one told them. I guess they had so many dumped on them, it was not realistic to plug them all into the wall, and sit there and wait. I can relate, I don’t even like waiting to charge one new smartphone.
The Ukrainian Air Force, what is left of it, is now flying on Helen Keller terms. It seems that Ukraine combat aircraft rely on ground controlled radar to conduct air to air intercepts. Guess what the Russians obliterated in the first hours of their invasion on Wednesday? If you said, “ground controlled radar” you are a winner.
Without that radar the Russians have air superiority. They have castrated the Ukrainians ability to provide close air support and disrupt Russian air cover. They are flying blind (if they are flying and can find an operational air field.) Then there are the lines of communication for the Ukrainian Army. Critical military fuel dumps are on fire and the ability of the Ukrainian Army to keep their tanks and trucks running is slipping away.
This perhaps explains the volte face of Zelensky in being willing to sit down with the Russians and try to negotiate an end to the evisceration of Ukraine’s military capability.
Why is it if people choose to use facts on the ground and point out the propaganda of the MSM, which are known liars, does it make a person a Putin cheerleader? Does it make you a backer of George Soros because you believe MSM propaganda and are shaking the Pom Poms for George Soros puppet in Ukraine?
WTH is wrong with you?
What happens to you if you find out the media duped you over and over? Choose to believe what you wish, but quit accusing others of rooting for Putin because they are listening to some facts on the ground that don’t match up.
When did you become a democrat?
That was a low blow, too.
this situation is causing all kinds of sides to be drawn, depending on various perspectives. I'm not so sure where I even stand.
Instinctively, I didn't like Putin just up and invading when the whole situation had plenty of time to be resolved diplomatically.
Then again, the attacks by the woke against our culture and morals has been awful, and Putin has defended some of that. And NATO/EU has relentlessly moved East... And Biden has used the Ukraine as his own personal piggy bank. But that's not the fault of the Ukrainian people.
What a world!
Has there been any footage of downed Russian aircraft with Ukranian soldiers and/or a small crowd of locals gathered around? I have seen a lot of clips aired, but none showing an actual pile of aircraft parts with Russian identifiers lying in a smoldering heap. One would think, if the Ukraines have shot down so many Russian aircraft, that would go a long way for Ukrainian propaganda...
Here’s a Mi-24 helicopter on fire and crashing...
https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1497686240279371777?s=20&t=pRMYQsNcG6clPkMNKC3ErA
Then a simple question: who started this war?
Start providing specific verifiable sources - with URLs, etc - and maybe FReepers would trust you.
Your record on claims and also providing sources for your claims is poor. Very poor in fact. Do better.
Biden and Soros set it up.
As expected, a news outlet that you don't agree with is labeled NWO. I guess you do that because you are unable to discern facts even from news sources that you do not "like".
What's the motive for us faking what's happening over there? We don't want to be drawn into this, do we?
So all this is to prop up the image of Biden? Well, it did change the subject away from inflation, our borders being overrun, massive debt,low ratings etc... It also handed more power to the deep state...
What else?
The longer the war—the more horrible it will become—Sherman was right—War is Hell. No propaganda will change the real face of war. Its ugly and terrible. No glory here, no mad dictators trying to take over the world, no “fight for Freedom” (Just ask any Trucker in Canada—or the people locked away in DC because of 1-6) No—its all a terrible show. We should not be giving weapons to Ukraine—just as we should not have given them to the Taliban. It will be over soon, a week or two. Then it will be forgotten—Remember “Freedom Fries?” so long ago? At least they are not talking about Covid VI.
Propaganda is a terrible thing. Russian soldiers are stupid, ill trained idiots, who don’t know what end of the rifle the bullet comes out? Conscripts? Remember, they won WW II. No, this is crazy talk. Once the bulk of our army and navy were draftees (and I predict, will be again). Reminds me of the old 1941 adage “One American can beat 10 Japanese!” Sorry, it didn’t turn out that way. Remember the Battle of the Alamo—Santa Ana’s Mexican army was all conscripts, the Texans were volunteers fighting for Freedom —But they lost and died. Kiev is looking more and more like The Alamo.
“....Don’t know about you, but I take being threatened with nuclear annihilation personally.”
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Prepare for the worse, earnestly pray for the best.
There is not a whole lot you and me can do about the situation but we should do our best to keep our lives simple and honest, right with God and not a slave to personal debt.
Oh, please.
But many here do I mean they drink it up
Bump for later.
Sat service for phone systems
Russians may use it too for all we know
Yes. Easy prey exist here on FR. Many are slow on the uptake. I will never forget the early days of COVID, when many posters on FR were ignorant to the threat of our civil rights, and actually support Fauci, Birx, and the shutdowns. This feels like the same thing.
That is correct
Completely lost on most on this forum as they align with Soros
There is a lot going on here
The state of western media is pure decay and that’s much worse than what Ukraine means to us
It’s the means to control the sheep
And it works
look at this forum
Nobody truly knows the truth yet
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