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To: Fractal Trader

Fractal Trader wrote: “I sincerely hope that this situation is not as bad as the headline would indicate.”

It isn’t. Many of the quotes are from the “Expose”, a notorious click bait anti-vaxxer source which makes it highly suspect.

From the article: “Public Health Scotland (PHS) is reporting that an astounding four out of every five covid hospitalizations and deaths are jabbed, meaning only 20 percent of hospitalizations and deaths blamed on covid are occurring in the unvaccinated.”

Sounds bad but it doesn’t include this very important data point. Scotland is over 90% vaccinated and the vaccination rate in the over 50 cohorts is almost 100%.

https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-scotland-statistics/fact-check-graph-comparing-scottish-covid-19-hospitalisations-and-deaths-by-vaccination-status-lacks-key-information-idUSL1N2QQ24L

So, 20% of the hospitalizations are from less than 10% of the population. The demographic most apt to serious illness and death is almost 100% vaccinated. Consequently, high rates of infections, illness, deaths should be in the highly vaccinated population.


17 posted on 02/15/2022 8:58:49 AM PST by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: DugwayDuke

Re-read what you have written. How does what you wrote represent an effective vaccine?

Do you realize fundamental changes to society - the vaccine passport - are being proposed due to this thing, which is a multi-billion dollar and dangerous failure?


22 posted on 02/15/2022 9:33:58 AM PST by ReaganGeneration2 (Widespread belief in asymptomatic spread of a low-risk virus hastened the end of the West by 100 yrs)
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To: DugwayDuke
I just looked at the stats for Singapore, which got a lot of favorable press for having one of the highest vaccination rates in the world. Pre-vax, their highest daily case rate was about 960, during the first wave in early 2020. Then for an entire year, four months pre-vax and eight months post-vax, their daily case rate was 30 or less.

In the fall of 2021, with most of the country vaxxed, cases jumped to about 3,700 a day, 300% higher than pre-vax. Recently, cases have jumped to 10,400 per day, 900% higher than pre-vax.

As for deaths, pre-vax there was never more than one per day, and usually none. Post-vax, in the Fall of 2021, that rose to 10-14 a day, nine months into the vaccination program. Recently, the deaths-per-day is running at three to five, higher than pre vax.

I don't know what the breakdown is for vaxxed vs unvaxxed, but when almost everyone is vaccinated, most of the cases will be of the vaccinated, even if the unvaccinated are two or three times more likely to get sick.

What's my point? That - compared to most of the early vaccines for thinks like tetanus and polio - these vaccines are remarkably ineffective. They appear to have some short-term benefit in reducing the severity of Covid, but are far from the guarantee they were initially claimed to be. And I haven't even discussed the side-effects that are increasingly associated with the vaccines, effects which may cancel-out much of their benefit for Covid.
35 posted on 02/15/2022 10:00:22 AM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: DugwayDuke
he demographic most apt to serious illness and death is almost 100% vaccinated. Consequently, high rates of infections, illness, deaths should be in the highly vaccinated population.

Then, for those that have not yet been vaccinated, or those deciding on whether to get continuing boosters, why on God's green earth would anyone get the vaccine?

39 posted on 02/15/2022 10:24:11 AM PST by Go Gordon
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To: DugwayDuke

If there’s nosocomial spread in hospitals, then people who are in for something else but die of great coof are likely dying after being infected by vaxxed superspreader employees.

They might have survived what they were in for if their Deep State’s mandatory vaxx program hadn’t ensured nosocomial spread.


75 posted on 02/16/2022 5:13:53 AM PST by mewzilla (God bless Canada's Freedom Truckers!)
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