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I-95 Ice Storm Overnight Traffic Jam – Imagine you were Stuck in an EV
Watts Up With That ^ | 1/5/22 | Eric Worrall

Posted on 01/05/2022 9:23:44 AM PST by Renkluaf

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To: gr8eman

“The hot engine heats the passengers you moron! What’s a heater core?”

Meanwhile it heats the engine compartment, keeps hundreds of parts moving and sends waste heat out the exhaust.

Meanwhile, the EV sends all drawn energy into heating.


61 posted on 01/05/2022 11:37:39 AM PST by TexasGator (UF)
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To: TexasGator

You should take a physics course and learn the laws of thermodynamics....not that it would matter!


62 posted on 01/05/2022 11:39:31 AM PST by gr8eman (When you're bought and paid for by commies...you're a commie!)
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To: setter

An UBER driver recently went over 300,000 miles. Only maintenance was installing a refurbished battery for about $5k.


63 posted on 01/05/2022 11:41:08 AM PST by TexasGator (UF)
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To: Revel

“Home heating/cooling heat pumps use stored energy from underground.”

No they do not. You are thinking of geothermal which we use in our house. Our last house used a heat pump and nothing was transferred to or from the ground.

Go to Toyotas tech pages. Are they going to outright lie what their EV’s technology can and cannot do?

Before saying everything is a lie do some basic research and learn something.


64 posted on 01/05/2022 11:42:58 AM PST by setter
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To: gr8eman

“You should take a physics course and learn the laws of thermodynamics....not that it would matter!”

Been there, done that.

We could discuss facts instead of you only making personal attacks but that would require some knowledge on your part.


65 posted on 01/05/2022 11:43:27 AM PST by TexasGator (UF)
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To: Renkluaf

Wow! This guy is a real genius. Anyone with half a brain cell figured this out decades ago.


66 posted on 01/05/2022 11:57:21 AM PST by Cobra64 (Common sense isn’t common anymore.)
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To: cyclotic

Glad you’re OK.


67 posted on 01/05/2022 12:02:25 PM PST by Renkluaf
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To: Renkluaf

It seems that the Highway Patrol was on a coffee break. I have been in similar situations on I-80 in Nevada and I-15 in Utah. The police led cars and trucks in a caravan off exits to wait out the storm. Now in southern Utah the exits are far between, but I think it was around Fillmore that we spent four hours in a gas station’s service bays with about forty other people. There were snacks and free coffee and bathrooms. When the road was cleared we were led through the pass in group of twenty with an escort. I know I-95 is busy, but they should have done something. I always carried sleeping bags, food, flares, CB radio, extra spare tire, shovels etc and had at least half a tank of gas. I’m sure some of these folks were wearing shorts and flip flops.


68 posted on 01/05/2022 12:23:25 PM PST by Babba Gi
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To: setter
Toyota is one of the sane automakers - they are not drawing a line in the sand where all their vehicles will be EV. They are waiting to see where the market (or government) goes unlike many other makers.

Regarding drywall - are you saying it's better than plaster? Drywall is certainly quicker and cheaper, but it's nowhere as durable as plaster. There are many houses in my area with original horse hair plaster put up 250 years ago. Drop me a line when drywall reaches that milestone.

Last thing - why are you on a platform for conservatism? You're a vaxnazi and are touting EV's that government is trying to jam down our throats.

69 posted on 01/05/2022 12:25:34 PM PST by Lovely-Day-For-A-Guinness
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To: Lovely-Day-For-A-Guinness

“they are not drawing a line in the sand where all their vehicles will be EV”

From toyota.com: Toyota to invest $35 billion into battery-powered EVs and roll out 30 models by 2030. ... It aims to increase global sales of battery electric vehicles by 3.5 million units a year by 2030.

“EV’s that government is trying to jam down our throats”

Car manufactuers are pushing for EV’s, not the gov’t. Gm said Ev’s take a 1/3 of the labor to produce and have half the parts. They said their future warranty work with EV’s will be 10% of gas models. No more cooling system issues, transmissions going out, fuel problems etc. It’s about money and profit to these companies not saving the enviroment. Srs. look it up and read why every company wants EV’s. It’s all about the benjamins.

“Last thing - why are you on a platform for conservatism? You’re a vaxnazi and are touting EV”

Plenty of conservatives are vaccinated. Many here have said so though if thye mention it they are attacked by a vocal antivaxxnazis.

EV’s are not liberal or conservative except to strict idealogues like yourself making an issue out of it.. Every person I know who has driven an EV loves it...conservative and liberal.


70 posted on 01/05/2022 1:04:11 PM PST by setter
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To: Lovely-Day-For-A-Guinness

This guy says that the Prius has a “heat recirculation system” to pull heat from the ICE exhaust in order to warm the electric system:

https://www.cars.com/articles/how-does-the-toyota-prius-handle-winter-1420692904443/


71 posted on 01/05/2022 1:23:50 PM PST by nicollo
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To: setter
Yer nuts, dude, if you think it's manufacturers driving this. They are doing it as they see the big hand of government demanding it.

Toyota is NOT putting all their eggs in the EV basket. It is taking a cautious wait and see approach. Toyoda also is dubious whether the grid will be able to handle all the required electricity. He understands how the infrastructure needs to be increased, which will belch more carbon into the air in Japan, a country that gets most of their energy from hydrocarbons.

Here's a novel thought for you - you drive what you want, I'll drive what I want and to hell with big gov butting into each other's business.

Every person I know who has driven an EV loves it...conservative and liberal.

Every person who has driven a Shelby GT350R loves it, not just the ones I know.

72 posted on 01/05/2022 2:04:14 PM PST by Lovely-Day-For-A-Guinness
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To: Renkluaf

27 hours

How many urinations on the side of the road occurred?
Will grass ever grow there again?

Asking for an incontinent friend


73 posted on 01/05/2022 2:20:52 PM PST by oldbill
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To: Lovely-Day-For-A-Guinness

“It is taking a cautious wait and see approach. Toyoda also is dubious whether the grid will be able to handle all the required electricity. He understands how the infrastructure needs to be increased, which will belch more carbon into the air in Japan, a country that gets most of their energy from hydrocarbons”

The quote I posted is from Toyota USA for the US market. As for the US grid nearly all states except for a few produce more electricity than they use. Washington state for instance sells about 25% of their production to Canada. We actually use less power today than we did 20 years ago most to energy saving appliances, led bulbs etc and people are just more energy conscious. 177 new natural gas power plants are curently being built in the US Two are near me.

“Every person who has driven a Shelby GT350R loves it, not just the ones I know”

I have owned and restored and bought about 20+ muscle cars since my first in 1978. I have owned an R code Mustang and one 67 Cobra Jet Mustang and two 396 Chevelles among numerous small block versions. I know the thrill.

I also have seen where Tesla has a stock production EV 4 door sedan that runs 8.94 in the quarter mile right out of the box with no mods-it’s version of say the Dodge Hellcat. That is why Dodge is coming up with their own EV Dodge Challenger in 2022 to compete


74 posted on 01/05/2022 2:37:28 PM PST by setter
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To: Renkluaf

“In Virginia, drivers were stranded in a 50-mile stretch of Interstate 95 near Fredericksburg overnight.”

Another example highlighting the stupidity of the deep state, noodle-arm bureaucrats infesting DC. These morons were warned of an imminent snowstorm. Yet these DC bureaucrats living in Virginia piled in their cars and headed out, with no tire chains, no blankets, no snacks and no water in their cars.

I continue to urge people to take a walk thru any federal bureaucracy and see the fat, stupid, low-IQ morons sitting at their desks, eating two-pound bags of potato chips and guzzling two-liter bottles of coke. These are weenies with marshmallow faces.


75 posted on 01/05/2022 3:39:47 PM PST by sergeantdave (Federal courts no longer have any standing in America. )
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To: setter

An expert on electrical grid too— wow that is amazing! And... completely wrong. Get back to the real world when the entire US grid is supplied by nuclear power, with all that unlikelihood implies for the “future” of “all cars sold being EVs”— they won’t be. Comment made by someone who knows A LOT about nuclear power, and refueling naval vessels.

Experience, for real with Teslas, have proven radically different performance outcomes from what they claim. Have two vehicles conventionally powered which have ranges in excess of 500 miles, so big woop for new battery powered cars operating in only optimal conditions. The Mercedes which incredibly are touted— every single one of them has a price tag over 100K which removes most of the arguments for “cost efficiency”— that is a joke.


76 posted on 01/05/2022 5:48:33 PM PST by John S Mosby ( Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Renkluaf

Got stuck in a traffic jam this morning due to a bad wreck. Was beside a Nissan Leaf and hoped that he had a full charge before leaving this morning.


77 posted on 01/05/2022 7:55:23 PM PST by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite its unfashionability)
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