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The West Is Burning Down Before Our Eyes: If Western democracies can morph into being like Communists over a virus, what can’t they do?
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| 01/02/2022
| Bonchie
Posted on 01/02/2022 8:36:53 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time
Also spewing from the profiteering medical-industrial complex laughing all the way to the bank with the ChiComs. There are contingencies and protocols for such actual emergencies, and this ain't it. They're making up policy as they go since this has now devolved into a big game of move-countermove, a base struggle of will between government and various groups of people including whole geographic regions that looks to continue even after threat from any virus is long gone. I'm seeing steady escalation into divisive and destructive brinkmanship yet to come. The threat to the nation from that aspect is a real one that outstrips any alleged biological menace.
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01/03/2022 3:49:50 AM PST
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lapsus calami
(What's that stink? Code Pink ! ! And their buddy Murtha, too!)
To: lapsus calami
— “The threat to the nation from that aspect is a real one that outstrips any alleged biological menace.”
That seems most correct in my view also.
As I write with friends around the world, and simply show them the actual percentage “official” dead against their populations, and according to those “official” sources, they are shocked to find their own nations are also in the grip of that “threat” which is not the actual virus event, small in comparison to the perturbation of whole economies and people's lives.
You wrote, “...looks to continue even after threat from any virus is long gone.” I think that has been true for a very long time already. The “pandemic” was a construct, and game. By the numbers as I write, the “official” count comes to just about 25 one-hunredths of one percent.
Been over for a long time, except for the allied media and state agenda, a medical-industrial complex.
To: Worldtraveler once upon a time
Keep up that correspondence, those communications going. Too many people running around "what do we do?!" - whatever you're able, is what. Death by a thousand paper cuts to the tyrants, the scammers.
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01/03/2022 5:49:01 AM PST
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lapsus calami
(What's that stink? Code Pink ! ! And their buddy Murtha, too!)
To: lapsus calami
That is my aim. For friends in Europe, I have been quoting them various national numbers to show how the hysteria is bogus. Slowly my circle is “getting it.”
To: Olog-hai
Don't forget these quotes as well:
"...at a certain stage in the development of democracy, it first welds together the class that wages a revolutionary struggle against capitalism -- the proletariat -- and enables it to crush, smash to smithereens, wipe off the face of the earth the bourgeois, even the republican-bourgeois, state machine -- the standing army, the police and the bureaucracy -- and to substitute for it a more democratic state machine, but a state machine nevertheless, in the shape of the armed masses of workers who develop into a militia in which the entire population takes part."
--The State and Revolution by Vladimir Lenin
"...the Social-Democrat’s [Communist's] ideal should not be the trade union secretary, but the tribune of the people, who is able to react to every manifestation of tyranny and oppression, no matter where it appears, no matter what stratum or class of the people it affects; who is able to generalise all these manifestations and produce a single picture of police violence and capitalist exploitation; who is able to take advantage of every event, however small, in order to set forth Mb>before all his socialist convictions and his democratic demands, in order to clarify for all and everyone the world-historic significance of the struggle for the emancipation of the proletariat."
--What Is to Be Done? by Vladimir Lenin
And while we're at it, might as well give special mention to the French Revolution, which formed the basis of democracy, and not in a good way, both quotes being from Maximilian Robespierre:
"Only a democratic or republican government— these two words are synonyms despite the abuses in common speech—because an aristocracy is no closer than a monarchy to being a republic...Democracy is a state in which the sovereign people, guided by laws which are of their own making, do for themselves all that they can do well, and by their delegates do all that they cannot do for themselves...Now, what is the fundamental principle of popular or democratic government, that is to say, the essential mainspring which sustains it and makes it move? It is virtue. I speak of the public virtue which worked so many wonders in Greece and Rome and which ought to produce even more astonishing things in republican France—that virtue which is nothing other than the love of the nation and its laws. But the French are the first people of the world who have established real democracy, by calling all men to equality and full rights of citizenship; and there, in my judgment, is the true reason why all the tyrants in league against the Republic will be vanquished."
"Terror is only justice: prompt, severe and inflexible; it is then an emanation of virtue; it is less a distinct principle than a natural consequence of the general principle of democracy, applied to the most pressing wants of the country."
Emphasis mine. In fact, Marx was directly inspired by the Reign of Terror when forming Communism as yet another extension of democracy.
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01/04/2022 5:38:51 PM PST
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otness_e
To: otness_e
Noted Robespierre’s dig at the USA, for demonstrating that there is a distinction between “democracy” and “republic”. That was demonstrated further via Wilson’s equating of democracy with socialism.
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01/04/2022 5:41:45 PM PST
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Olog-hai
("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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