Posted on 12/31/2021 8:13:20 AM PST by marktwain
no no no... Toxic Masculinity asserting itself again
Where were they when we needed them on Jan. 5?
No. This is not happening. This is a complete lie. Don't believe all the crap you're being spoon fed to make you outraged.
Nobody in Australia, Aboriginal or otherwise, has been arrested for refusing to be vaccinated.
Some people including some Aboriginals have been placed in quarantine because they are either infected with COVID or they have been exposed to it as a close primary contact. You may well think that is unjustified but it is completely different from being compelled to be vaccinated and being arrested for refusing - that just is not happening.
The Australian government and their police have become a near-Soviet style regime where people are arrested and held without charge for making posts on Facebook, attending legal public protests, merely supporting protests, and for refusing their damned shot.
Again, this is just not true. Nobody has been 'arrested and held without charge'. And nobody has been charged for simply making a post on Facebook (there's always been some other issue besides that if the people who are lying to you, aren't telling you all the facts), nobody has been arrested for simply attending a legal protest, although some people have when those protests have turned violent and at that point ceased to be illegal and in some cases (although not most), I think it might be fair to say police provoked violence. Nobody has been arrested for simply supporting protests. And categorically and absolutely nobody has been arrested for refusal to be vaccinated.
Refusing to be vaccinated is not a crime anywhere in Australia. There are places where people can be denied the right to work if they are not vaccinated - we do have those types of mandates in place to varying degrees in various states.
It's also important to note that none of this has been done by the Australian government. It's all been done by state and territory governments - under Australia's constitution, all power to deal with issues concerning 'public health' are in the control of the state governments and the federal level government has basically no real power to set rules on these matters, or to overrule the rules that state governments set. The actual Australian government opposes vaccine mandates, except in the very limited case of front line healthcare workers working with vulnerable populations - but it can't constitutionally stop the state and territory governments from doing so. It also has opposed most lock-downs and other extreme measures taking by the state and territory governments, but again, has no power to actually stop this happening.
So if you choose to oppose the Australian government, you're actually opposing the only level of Australian government that isn't trying to use COVID to oppress people, and therefore you are putting yourself on the side of the actual pseudo-fascists who are doing that.
Look for a PM.
Thats neither here nor there. This is exactly how not to do it, the national government will find a way to link it if they wish and either way crack down.
Patsies and agents provocateur put on these shows on behalf of the government. People dedicated to a real cause do nothing until its time to kill and destroy and then starting only with targets that would make a difference.
It's my understanding they walk on eggshells over there regarding Aborigines. You can say a lot about how Americans treated blacks during our history, but we didn't actually start a genocide program to wipe them out.
The Australians are terrified of their history in the modern context of things. Everyone is so woke, they simply can't cope.
Yeah, some other apologist for the Aussies came after me a few months ago to complain Soviet style that the news and video about Australia was not accurate.
I’ll tell you what I told him: I helped three of my Aussie friends and their families ESCAPE Australia because they were not permitted to leave. You don’t have to escape from a free country and that to me is the bottom line here.
And putting people in concentration camps for being around someone else is BULL$HIT. It’s imprisonment without trial. And slice it however you want that’s what’s happening.
“And nobody has been charged for simply making a post on Facebook”
BULL$HIT.
“Refusing to be vaccinated is not a crime anywhere in Australia.”
Then what’s with the imprisonments, fines, penalties, denial of passports, and people getting fired from their jobs?
Yeah, it’s hard for me to believe that prior to this Wuhan Flu madness that I was planning a trip to Australia with my wife to go visit the same friends we ended up helping to escape. Now there is zero chance I’ll go there because I’ll probably be arrested for helping my friends get out of that shithole.
No, it isn't. As the article does make reasonably clear, she wasn't arrested and charged simply for making a Facebook post. She was charged with inciting criminal behaviour. I have written dozens of public Facebook posts attacking the state government here for its handling of COVID, and calling on people to lawfully protest. What she did was expressly advocate criminal behaviour. There's a huge difference. I do agree that the police were heavy handed in her case, and I think it's possible, she will be found not guilty of any offence - she's recently had her first court appearance - but it wasn't just a Facebook post, just because that's what she says that is all that happened.
Then what’s with the imprisonments, fines, penalties, denial of passports, and people getting fired from their jobs?
Nobody is being imprisoned or fined for not getting vaccinated. That's a categorical statement - it's not an offence to not be vaccinated and people cannot be fined or imprisoned for not doing so. I would also be extremely surprised if anybody has been denied a passport for not being vaccinated - there is no legal requirement to be vaccinated to get a passport, but I couldn't absolutely rule out some overzealous official doing something that shouldn't have legally done. Your claim here is the first I've heard of something like that though. In the absence of any evidence it's happened, I would assume it hasn't happened.
It is true that some people are losing their jobs for refusing to get vaccinated. If I wasn't vaccinated, I'd have lost mine - I made the decision to be vaccinated well before any mandate was introduced, if I hadn't, I might have considered not doing so as a protest against mandates, but it was a moot point for me. But that is a far cry from your claim that people are being 'arrested and charged', 'fined', or 'imprisoned' for doing so.
I guess you prefer the security of a police state to freedom. You can have it. Good luck if you ever decide you don’t like it.
I guess you prefer the security of a police state to freedom. You can have it. Good luck if you ever decide you don’t like it.
I don’t particularly like what has been going on in Australia.
I just don’t feel any need to lie about it to make Americans feel better about their country.
Apparently, though, lots of Americans need that fake comfort right now and so will believe any crap they are fed to make other countries seem worse than they are.
Obviously. If there's another reason, try as I might, I can't think of one.
“Now there is zero chance I’ll go there because I’ll probably be arrested for helping my friends get out of that shithole.”
Glad to hear that...I suspect they have your number there. Perhaps meet your friends in a 3rd country, providing a day comes when they’re permitted to leave.
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