Unvaxxed son has Covid

[KYGrandma]

My son who is not vaccinated, has covid. Need information and prayers

[MayflowerMadam]

Hubby and I both had it, as well as my niece. None of us is vaccinated. A couple weeks and we were back to normal.

[gas_dr]

To be clear I am not disgusted by what I read here — this is a rare place where news and conservative ideas are well debated and bantered.

I am disgusted by the few narcissistic people whose expertise is false and certainly demonstrate a fundamental lack of knowledge of complex things while trying to direct people to do things that are either not helpful, or in the alternative, totally harmful.

[humblegunner]

Well, first...
The Qtards are going to show up and say that he’s sick because he got vaccinated.

That’s how they do.

Next.. does he have any trucks or guns or dope?

[thouworm]

“I am not defending me in the least, in the southeast region, the hospitals have access to monoclonals. I am hoping that as there is a shortage in Kentucky, that there may be a place where his physician is aware of how and where to get them.”

I fail to understand why you don’t understand that KYGrandma’s son is in the ER and probably admitted by now.

You don’t give her the benefit of assuming she has done her homework and concluded there will be no monoclonal treatment in the hospital.

She is theoretically asking you for a what next? and you are responding by citing your success with monoclonals on hospital levels.

And then you trash me for being “in the conga line of experts attacking for little or no reason.”

Let’s assume her son has been admitted with NO option of monoclonals.

Can you offer her and her family any advice if that is the case?

[gas_dr]

way to many what ifs and assumptions. I assume if she wanted to tell us she would ask us. Therefore making assumptions is not in the best interest.

[CodeToad]

I was in Colorado, but now live in Florida.

[thouworm]

“way to many what ifs and assumptions. I assume if she wanted to tell us she would ask us. Therefore making assumptions is not in the best interest.”

She already did tell us and ask us.

But any advice you might have for other loved ones in the same position-—ASSUME admitted to the hosp with no monoclonals available-—might be invaluable.

If not for KYGrandma...please advise for others.

[Lakewood]

On this post from the first 100 or so responses we have the following advice:

Vit D

Vit C

Zinc

Ivermectin

Vitamin D3 and zinc

Cuercetin

Benadryl and milk

Ivermectin

HCQ

Quercetin

fresh orange juice, put in juice of 1/2 a lemon, and add some fresh grated ginger

D-3 and daily dose of Zinc

tonic water every hour

Melantonin

Vit C, lots of Vit D, quercetin with Zinc, NAC, melatonin, and pepcid

Steroids

Ivermectin

Lactoferrin with diphenhydramine (benedryl)

Zinc pills and Vit D

Lactoferrin

DEMAND an infusion of monoclonal antibodies BEFORE any hospital admission, otherwise absolutely refuse admission

Quercetin combined with Vitamin D3, Vitamin C and Zinc

Ivermectin or Hydroxychloriquine

D3 (5000 IU), quercitin (1000mg) with zinc (40mg) daily

HCQ/Ivermectin protocol

Lemon water
Coconut fat because it does not metabolize through the liver
Selenium + vitamin E to produce glutathione master scavenger to rid the body of toxins
Pack the head with ice or wet towels to reduce fever but do not take aspirin
N-Aceytl-Cysteine, Bromelain can dissolve the spike protein (University of Nebraska Med. School)
Zinc, 10,000 IU’s of Vitamin D, Quercetin, Lysine

Quercetin

So we have:
6 Vitamin D’s
2 Vitamin C’s
7 Zinc’s
5 Ivermectin’s
7 Quercetin’s
2 Benadryl’s
1 milk
3 HCQ’s
Orange juice cocktail
Tonic Water
2 Melatonin’s
Lactoferrin

And the most comprehensive:

Lemon water
Coconut fat because it does not metabolize through the liver
Selenium + vitamin E to produce glutathione master scavenger to rid the body of toxins
Pack the head with ice or wet towels to reduce fever but do not take aspirin
N-Aceytl-Cysteine, Bromelain can dissolve the spike protein (University of Nebraska Med. School)
Zinc, 10,000 IU’s of Vitamin D, Quercetin, Lysine

My advice. Listen to your doctor. If monoclonal antibodies are available and your son can take them and that’s the advice of your son’s doctor he should avail himself to them. No one here knows anything about your son, including me. Therefore I would not take anyone’s advice, including mine. Other than that I pray for your son, you and your son’s doctors. I trust he has a speedy and uneventful recovery. God speed.

[waterhill]

One click of horse paste per 100 lbs. Tractor supply.

I am un-vaxxed and have had covid. I keep the horse paste on hand, but I probably won’t need it.

[liberalh8ter]

Prayer said for your son.

[workerbee]

I am disgusted by the few narcissistic people whose expertise is false and certainly demonstrate a fundamental lack of knowledge of complex things

"Expertise" has taken quite a beating these days. Who is to say your "experts" are experts? The media-pushed "experts" have been changing definitions and moving the Covid goalposts for years. Meanwhile, there's a pretty believable cadre of "other experts" who have written about and testified before Congress that there are well-documented, other avenues to pursue -- IF the goal is saving lives.

[waterhill]

I have heard that through a couple of sources. If not, a good way to make me sleepy ;^)

[gas_dr]

Ok fair enough....
It depends on an awful lot of things
Universal things I would do right now
—Vitamin D 10000 units a day for the next five days
—Vitamin C 1000 mg a day for the next five days
—Zinc, load 200 - 220 mg a day for the next five days
—Would maintain RDA of vitamins after recovery
—Melatonin 10 mg at bed time

Specifically

1. Is this more Omicron or delta
—If more omicron in symptoms (URI) than delta (LRI) I wouldn’t so much else
—Monitor symptoms (runny nose / sore throat) if not worsening it will run its course
—Stay hydrated
—PRN analgesics

2. If symptoms are more delta than omicron (lower URI)
—Add azithromycin 500 mg a day x 3 days (high dose) VS standard Z-pak over 5 days
—Decadron 8 mg a day for 5 days, re-evaluate as needed
Lab Analysis: If SpO2 < 90%
—ABG
—CBC (looking at absolute lymphocytes)
—LDH
—Ferratin
—CRP
Above labs to determine markers of inflammation
If discharged home: Home oximetryspot measurements every 2 Hours

If ARDS physiology (Pa/Fi < 200:1) — this diagnoses late stage disease, inflammatory phase
—Serial labs/continuous oximetry and telemetry
—Minimally invasive oxygen therapy —NC / Oximyzer / CFM / NIPPV Favoring CPAP strategy instead of BiPAP
—Self proning protocol
—Budesonide nebulization if on oxygen
—CT scan to determine extent of disease and multi lobar nature of viral PNA
—As needed medications to improve NIPPV synchrony and decrease work of breathing
—Maintain posture to avoid mechanical ventilation until absolutely necessary
—If mechanical ventilation necessary: ARDSnet TV (5-7ml / kg) to prevent barotrauma, proning protocol
—Baseine volume assessment and maintain euvolemia as evidenced by BUN: SCr ratio
—Anticoagulation (Aggressive) and 3 - 6 most post recovery anticoagulation
—HERE IS WHERE I DIVERGE — I do not administer remdesivir, I do not think it is effective
—Maintain adequate enteral nutrition

[Mathews]

Benedryl and Lactoferrin. Both over the counter. I ordered through amazon.

[fieldmarshaldj]

Prayers for his full and speedy recovery !

[waterhill]

https://drinkcrazywater.com/

So good, its crazy!

[waterhill]

Hit and run poster (internet psychosis; granny craves pings_)

[HandyDandy]

You spelled “ferritin” incorrectly. But keep up the good work.

[The MAGA-Deplorian]

Heavy on the Vit D3, zinc and vit C. Zinc will make him a bit nauseous but its for breaking the COVID cells down.

[FarRockaway2]

Here is the leaderboard which documents peer reviewed
study of all treatments.

https://c19early.com/

Advice like “take lots of”
is completely irresponsible. Consult MD for dose. You
can harm people with too much of any of the following
supplements or medications.

#1. Best thing you can do: monoclonal antibodies. In order to get that done you must a) get a positive COVID test ASAP b) get a prescription from an MD or posssibly Nurse Practitioner. c) get (a) and (b) done before the alloted time window runs out. MD’s will not give mAbs except early enough in the infection. You absolutely want them early enough in the infection. But to do that you have to MOVE. Don’t dawdle. You have to get your test, get the prescription, and get the needle in the arm ASAP. d) you must then find & go to an “infusion center”. This is NOT the doctor’s office or hospital. This is a separate, dedicated, facility. e) Infusion center locators by web and phone are:
https://covid.infusioncenter.org/

https://protect-public.hhs.gov/pages/therapeutics-distribution

mAbs finder phone-numbers.

Eli Lilly’s hotline: 855-LillyC19
Regeneron’s hotline: 844-734-6643

#2. Begin twice daily rinse of nasal cavity and throat
gargle with Povidone-Iodine mouthwash. Betadine is
a name brand for this. This may cut bad outcomes by 60%.

2. Zinc. Consult MD for dose. I took about 250mg/day
This would be about 1.1 mg per pound of body weight
I do not know optimal dose.

3. VitaminD. Consult MD for dose. I doses in studies range
from 20,000IU per day, to 400,000IU/day. There is an amount
above which it does not provide more improvement, it seems.
I would begin that discussion with MD at 50,000IU per day.
You get the most benefit from the first minimal amount/day.
I do not know optimal dose.

4. Aspirin. This is “anti-platelet” or blood-thinning.
consult MD for dose. This relates to person’s cardiac
conditions. So consult MD related to those issues.
I do not know optimal dose.

5. VitaminC. This is a “cleanup” vitamin. It helps the body
clear out pieces of broken cells that happen due disease.
I took 6000 milligrams (which is 6 grams) per day. Studied
doses are also higher. Consult MD for what dose should be.

If you cannot get to mAbs, get to Ivermectin. ivermectin
is fairly good. But warning: 85% chance it will sterilize
a male patient.

The leaderboard currently shows several drugs with insufficient numbers of measurements to be sure of effectiveness at the #1 to #3 positions. Sotrovimab
is a monoclonal antibody, which makes sense. Proxalutimid
is a re-purposed drug. And Paxlovid is the new Pfizer
COVID pill, but the numbers of availability on that are
very low. in the unlikely event you can get hands on it,
it works.

“As you know, we count as blessed those who have persevered.
You have heard of Job’s perseverance and have seen what the
Lord finally brought about. The Lord is full of compassion
and mercy.” - James 5:11