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Jussie Smollett wasn’t the only one found guilty
Flopping Aces ^ | 12-10-21 | DrJohn

Posted on 12/10/2021 7:27:41 AM PST by Starman417

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1 posted on 12/10/2021 7:27:41 AM PST by Starman417
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2 posted on 12/10/2021 7:36:05 AM PST by Liz (Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesnt know which bathroom to use>)
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I never heard of Jussie until he concocted his incredibly stupid hoax. May he return to the anonymity of a has-been as he so richly deserves.


3 posted on 12/10/2021 7:36:25 AM PST by Sans-Culotte (11/3-11/4/2020 - The USA became a banana republic.)
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If there was “justice” for Jussie regarding the crimes he committed, he’d be required to repay every penny the Chicago police et al spent investigating his false claims AND he’d do some jail time.

Jussie *could* get 3 years per guilty count (per Andy McCarthy) for a total of 15, but he’ll likely get probation/community service .... except Andy noted the judge seemed particularly annoyed with him when Jussie got all snarky/mouthy when being questioned by the prosecutor. The judge admonished him more than once. Jussie also testified in his own defense ... I didn’t pay attention to the reasoning, but McCarthy/Turley thought this was a mistake and didn’t think this was in his bests interests when it came to sentencing.


4 posted on 12/10/2021 7:42:30 AM PST by Qiviut ("Don't let your children die on the hill you refuse to fight on.")
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I never heard of Jussie until he concocted his incredibly stupid hoax.

Same here.

May he return to the anonymity of a has-been as he so richly deserves.

I hope so as well, but most Americans have short memories. He probably be resurrected from obscurity by the Hollyweird Leftist. They try very hard to take their faithful followers.

5 posted on 12/10/2021 7:42:49 AM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit)
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A very nice collection of their uniform analysis right quick when the story broke. I especially like his term for the Robin Roberts interview: “tongue bath.”


6 posted on 12/10/2021 7:51:53 AM PST by gloryblaze
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7 posted on 12/10/2021 7:53:02 AM PST by Ken H (Trump won.)
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Jussie *could* get 3 years per guilty count (per Andy McCarthy) for a total of 15, but he’ll likely get probation/community service

I do not know how the sentencing is done, whether by judge or jury. If I had anything to say, I would throw the book at him. IMO, the only way I would even entertain probation/community service would be if Jussie had fessed up and expressed remorse and contrition and thrown himself on the mercy of the court. The fact that he fought so defiantly to maintain such a ridiculous fiction shows me that he needs punishment.

8 posted on 12/10/2021 7:55:09 AM PST by Sans-Culotte (11/3-11/4/2020 - The USA became a banana republic.)
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Agreed.

I think the issue with “ if Jussie had fessed up and expressed remorse and contrition” is that by testifying to the opposite when he was on the stand, he blew what could have been his “I’m so sorry” argument at sentencing ... i.e. the judge won’t believe he’s suddenly and sincerely ‘contrite’. He was arrogant/snarky with the prosecutor when he was on the stand, too - judge admonished him more than once to answer the question yes/no, not opine.

Federal court so it looks like the judge does the sentencing:

Sentencing

A few months after the defendant is found guilty, they return to court to be sentenced.

The judge receives guidance and assistance from several sources in order to sentence a defendant. Congress has established minimum and maximum punishments for many crimes which the judge uses to craft a sentence. The United States Sentencing Commissions has produced a set of sentencing guidelines that recommend certain punishments for certain crimes while considering various factors. Further, the judge will look at a presentence report and consider statements from the victims as well as the defendant and lawyers.

The judge may consider a variety of aggravating or mitigating factors. These include whether the defendant has committed the same crime before, whether the defendant has expressed regret for the crime, and the nature of the crime itself.

https://www.justice.gov/usao/justice-101/sentencing


9 posted on 12/10/2021 8:01:18 AM PST by Qiviut ("Don't let your children die on the hill you refuse to fight on.")
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Heh........


10 posted on 12/10/2021 8:05:23 AM PST by Liz (Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesnt know which bathroom to use>)
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To: Ken H

Heh........


11 posted on 12/10/2021 8:05:23 AM PST by Liz (Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesnt know which bathroom to use>)
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Will America get an apology from all the people who immediately jumped on the bandwagon and insulted us? All? Many? Any? ... Even just one?

Doubtful.

12 posted on 12/10/2021 8:11:59 AM PST by ThunderSleeps (Biden/Harris - illegitimate and everyone knows it.)
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ABCs Good Morning America’s Robin Roberts (said to be the highest paid woman on TV) gave Smollett a tongue bath......as GMA viewers across America watched.

ABC used it’s viewership to aid and abet a crime in progress.

Smolletts continual lying and even embellishing the lie boosted by a sympathetic journo .....violated every broadcast standard.

CONTACT THE FCC:
Federal Communications Commission
45 L Street NE
Washington, DC 20554

Phone: 1-888-225-5322
Videophone: 1-844-432-2275
Fax: 1-866-418-0232


13 posted on 12/10/2021 8:15:16 AM PST by Liz (Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesnt know which bathroom to use>)
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To: GOPJ; poconopundit; Jane Long; Diana in Wisconsin; Grampa Dave; Godzilla; null and void; aragorn; ..

ABCs Good Morning America’s Robin Roberts (said to be the highest paid woman on TV) gave Smollett a tongue bath.

As GMA viewers across America watched, ABC blithely used it’s viewership to aid and abet a crime in progress.

Smolletts continual lying and even embellishing the lie boosted by a sympathetic journo .....violated every broadcast standard.

CONTACT THE FCC:
Federal Communications Commission
45 L Street NE
Washington, DC 20554

Phone: 1-888-225-5322
Videophone: 1-844-432-2275
Fax: 1-866-418-0232


14 posted on 12/10/2021 8:21:03 AM PST by Liz (Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesnt know which bathroom to use>)
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"...the only way I would even entertain probation/community service would be if Jussie had fessed up and expressed remorse and contrition and thrown himself on the mercy of the court

That's exactly right. He got out of court having been found guilty and he still insists he was attacked? No remorse? I hope the judge considers perjury charges.

15 posted on 12/10/2021 8:29:03 AM PST by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing obamacare is worse than obamacare itself)
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"The judge may consider a variety of aggravating or mitigating factors. These include whether the defendant has committed the same crime before, whether the defendant has expressed regret for the crime, and the nature of the crime itself."

If the judge follows these guidelines, it could go badly for Smollett. He did commit the same crime before (sent phony threatening letters to himself), never expressed regret (in fact he lied brazenly while under oath), and "the crime itself" and its very public aftermath caused untold damage to race relations. Still, it's a long shot that he'll ever pay for his crimes, even with the city of Chicago's civil suit.
16 posted on 12/10/2021 8:29:50 AM PST by Blurb2350 (posted from my 1500-watt blow dryer)
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To: Liz

Thanks


17 posted on 12/10/2021 8:30:55 AM PST by Vaduz (women and children to be impacIQ of chimpsted the most.)
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... He did commit the same crime before (sent phony threatening letters to himself),...

That case is still "under investigation."

18 posted on 12/10/2021 8:38:00 AM PST by gloryblaze
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Uh, he was convicted of state, not federal, crimes.


19 posted on 12/10/2021 8:45:31 AM PST by Real Cynic No More (Make America Great. Prosecute Dems who break the law!)
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Thanks for the correction,

My bad .... special prosecutor was a ‘former’ federal prosecutor (I evidently selectively heard the federal part) ... McCarthy/Turley were talking about sentencing guidelines & that sounded federal.

One more thing - cameras not allowed in fed courtrooms & not allowed here; however, after nosing around, ‘no cameras’ was because the courtroom was small & couldn’t accomodate cameras.


20 posted on 12/10/2021 8:54:54 AM PST by Qiviut ("Don't let your children die on the hill you refuse to fight on.")
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