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1 posted on 09/03/2021 7:59:10 PM PDT by Fractal Trader
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Older people are more likely to be vaccinated and because of their poor immune systems, that occurs with age, will die from COVID even though they are vaccinated. This situation will change as the immune suppressed demographics is burned out by more deaths, leaving the vaccinated elderly with strong immune systems that will benefit more from the vaccinations than the unvaccinated.


63 posted on 09/03/2021 10:05:21 PM PDT by jonrick46 (Leftnicks chase illusions of motherships at the end of the pier.)
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Epstein didn’t murder himself or jabbers, it was ADE.


77 posted on 09/03/2021 10:51:34 PM PDT by BiglyCommentary
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Here is what the study referred to by this article actually says about vaccination:

“This means that whilst vaccination may reduce an individual’s overall risk of becoming infected, once they are infected there is limited difference in viral load (and Ct values) between those who are vaccinated and unvaccinated. Given they have similar Ct values, this suggests limited difference in infectiousness”

This is the direct link to the study:

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1009243/Technical_Briefing_20.pdf


81 posted on 09/03/2021 11:14:30 PM PDT by Pelham (No more words, now we fight)
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I am not vaccinated and I’m retired and don’t care that much about traveling. So I’m hoping there’s no way they’ll force me to get vaccinated. But who knows, maybe they will withhold my SS or Medicare or something.

I think the government tyranny over all things covid is disgusting.

Having said all that, I’m so tired of all the cherry-picking on BOTH sides of the vaccine question.

Either the vaccination saves lives or it doesn’t. Putting all the data in equal terms is the only way to settle this question but no one is doing it.

We see story after story about some study in Israel or the UK or wherever. The time periods are not consistent, the definitions “fully vaccinated” or “nit fully vaccinated” are not consistent. Sometimes it’s cases, sometimes it’s deaths.

Sometimes these stories point to the vaccinated being just as vulnerable to covid, or even more vulnerable than the unvaccinated. Other stories suggest the opposite.

But both can’t be true.

When is some smart person going to sort through all these conflicting stories, put them on equal terms, and weight them according to statistical relevance?

I know there are some sharp people out there that could do this, but I’ve yet to see anything other than cherry-picking and anecdotal testimonials that all cancel each other out.

It reminds me of that meme of a weathervane spinning around every which way.


88 posted on 09/04/2021 2:26:40 AM PDT by enumerated
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From 19 times higher to now 5 times higher.....if you looked at how they define this it is probably more like 2 times higher maybe even steven


89 posted on 09/04/2021 2:49:04 AM PDT by BRL
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“ In other words, unvaccinated people who got infected were enormously safer from death. ”

• “If you get the shot, you won’t get covid.” FALSE
• “If you get the shot, you won’t get sick.” FALSE
• “If you get the shot you won’t be hospitalized.” FALSE
• “If you get the shot, you won’t die.” FALSE
• “If you don’t get the shot, your outcome will be worse.” FALSE

Coming soon to a clinic near you…

• “If you don’t get a booster, you’re not fully vaxxed!”
• “If you don’t get boosters every 6 months, your vaccine passport won’t work!”
• “If you don’t get the boosters, you’re an anti-vaxxer!”


99 posted on 09/04/2021 7:50:54 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything ᡕᠵ᠊ᡃ࡚ࠢ࠘ ⸝່ࠡࠣ᠊߯᠆ࠣ࠘ᡁࠣ࠘᠊᠊ࠢ࠘𐡏⁻ )
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“Delta Variant Death Rate Among Vaccinated Over 5 Times HIGHER Than the Unvaccinated in England”

WHAT?

STOP RIGHT THERE! What more do you need to know?

From a graph in the article:

“England over 50s Deaths from Delta Variant”

Fully vaccinated 402

Unvaccinated 121

16th to 29th August

Forgetting all the adverse effects of the jabs (VERY HARD to ignore), Almost 4 times as many fully vaccinated people in this group DIE than unvaccinated?

Why would ANYONE get the jab? WHY?

From all the PRO jabbers...

“C’mon man, jump off this cliff WITH me, I’ll feel better about MY decision.”


100 posted on 09/04/2021 7:51:25 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts )
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this is silly.... as most of the unvaxxed may be healthy and young, while many of the vaxxed are old and sickly.


110 posted on 09/04/2021 11:46:43 AM PDT by Katya (lacking in the feelings department, )
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