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Infrastructure Bill Has Provision That Could Lead to Big Fees on Americans and Blow Up Biden's Promise on Taxes: The National Motor Vehicle Per-Mile User Fee
Red State ^ | 08/05/2021 | Nick Arama

Posted on 08/05/2021 9:22:22 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 08/05/2021 9:22:22 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

NUTZ!


2 posted on 08/05/2021 9:33:50 PM PDT by granite (The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.Ecclesiastes 10:2)
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To: SeekAndFind

Enforcement should be a blast.


3 posted on 08/05/2021 9:37:38 PM PDT by LastDayz (A blunt and brazen Texan. I will not be assimilated.)
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“Enforcement should be a blast.” It will be easy. Your car will report on you. Your Nav system. Your Sirius/XM satellite radio. Your onboard computer. Your service center/dealership. Your cell phone. Your credit/debit card. Your insurance companies nanny state transponder if you choose that to save on insurance costs. Your toll road transponder if you use one. Your employer will report you via their address and your home address. These are just a few examples of their ability to track your movements.


4 posted on 08/05/2021 9:47:50 PM PDT by ocrp1982 ( Bibicly)
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To: ocrp1982

Not necessarily.


5 posted on 08/05/2021 10:13:23 PM PDT by LastDayz (A blunt and brazen Texan. I will not be assimilated.)
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Sadly this is among the least of our impending problems.

With the FDA (easily) coerced into fully approving the ‘vaccine’ I fully expect that we won’t be allowed to travel even by personal vehicle without proof of ‘vaccination’.


6 posted on 08/05/2021 10:17:35 PM PDT by LegendHasIt
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To: LegendHasIt

Will likely depend on your domicile.


7 posted on 08/05/2021 10:19:46 PM PDT by LastDayz (A blunt and brazen Texan. I will not be assimilated.)
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To: SeekAndFind

We already pay a per-mile gas tax. Every gallon includes local, state and federal taxes.


8 posted on 08/05/2021 10:43:13 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Not necessarily opposed, given three provisions:

1) replace (not in addition to) gas tax

2) mileage reported only, not destinatio/location (via encryption)

3) rates based on vehicle weight so the electric cars with their massive batteries take it up the tailpipe


9 posted on 08/05/2021 11:05:57 PM PDT by lump in the melting pot
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To: lump in the melting pot

Forget all that. They are about control and inflicting pain.


10 posted on 08/05/2021 11:38:02 PM PDT by Luke21
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To: lump in the melting pot

“ 2) mileage reported only, not destinatio/location (via encryption)”
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Are you KIDDING me? You actually trust the government to do that? You clearly don’t understand 3 things:

1. Federal and local prosecutors will demand and even subpoena such information. They have done exactly that with the information from automatic toll collection databases - Hell, even divorce lawyers are getting the information! When you are driving on public roads, you have NO expectation of privacy.

2. Even if there is a legal exception to the no expectation of privacy principle is carved out in future legislation, it WILL be ignored. The BATFE has built and maintained a database of gun purchasers DESPITE a clear prohibition on doing such in the 1986 FOPA.

3. The encrypted info WILL be hacked and sold to the highest bidder. Aside from the direct harm that such a release will do to our privacy, the FBI will “recover “ copies of whatever was hacked as part of their criminal investigation - and both keep and use the information forever. Oh, and there will be regular hacks, by secretly paid government hackers if no one else.

Please, once power is given up to any government, it is extremely difficult to get it back.


11 posted on 08/06/2021 12:37:54 AM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt, “The Weapon Shops of Isher”)
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To: SeekAndFind

And then after it spreads to corporate fleets, trucking and cab companies, skyrocketing food prices get a real boost.


12 posted on 08/06/2021 2:51:25 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: SeekAndFind

What about boating? Will it destroy that industry and the associated jobs?


13 posted on 08/06/2021 3:56:54 AM PDT by Josa
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To: lump in the melting pot

Why does an electric vehicle need a tailpipe?


14 posted on 08/06/2021 4:11:10 AM PDT by Laslo Fripp (The Sybil of Free Republic)
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Just an expression. EV’s which are quite heavy compared to similar IC vehicles (and thus put their share or more of wear and tear on the roads) should pay a proportional tax, in my opinion.


15 posted on 08/06/2021 4:32:22 AM PDT by lump in the melting pot
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To: Ancesthntr

They can already track you with cell signal pings to towers, facial recognition cameras, point-of-sale data from your bank card, etc. That horse left the barn some time ago


16 posted on 08/06/2021 4:34:55 AM PDT by lump in the melting pot
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To: Laslo Fripp

To store bananas.


17 posted on 08/06/2021 4:46:14 AM PDT by MortMan (Shouldn't "palindrome" read the same forward and backward?)
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To: SeekAndFind

Presumably, if a mileage tax were put into effect, the gasoline tax would be eliminated. So a tax increase ain’t necessarily so.

I think cars and other small vehicles shouldn’t be taxed at all, but the large trucks should be taxed based on mileage. Getting mileage information from commercial vehicles isn’t as bothersome as getting it from individuals.

I suppose you could also do the “road tax” by taxing purchases of tires rather than gasoline.


18 posted on 08/06/2021 4:52:29 AM PDT by cymbeline
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This is an unconstitutional tax as it treats citizens differently. The 14th Amendment requires EQUAL treatment for every citizen.


19 posted on 08/06/2021 7:39:22 AM PDT by Uncle Sham
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To: SeekAndFind

10 cents a mile for personal vehicles probably will be the starting point.


20 posted on 08/06/2021 7:50:44 AM PDT by damper99
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