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1 posted on 07/30/2021 3:58:32 PM PDT by karpov
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That’s because there are only two big ideas being forwarded: that different races in America “have different violent crime rates and different means and distributions of cognitive ability.” That’s it. Though there is more reasoning and analysis between the covers, the whole work rests on these two pillars.

Proof of the two points is readily available, but talking about it will have the woke burning you at the stake

2 posted on 07/30/2021 4:07:26 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (A Leftist can't enjoy life unless they are controlling, hurting, or destroying others)
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Those already familiar with the data on racial differences in cognitive tests and crime rates, and therefore predisposed to take Murray’s book seriously, will most likely give up on engagement due to intellectual exhaustion with today’s punitive and spiteful political climate. And those who might benefit from Murray’s book will not read it because it was written by someone who transmits ritual pollution to all those who acknowledge him. Additionally, judging by the choices of most Americans, who live broadly racially segregated lives, the solution to the problem of race as expressed in their revealed preferences is clear. Murray need not worry about the emergence of resentful white identity politics, since the empirical data suggests that places like Hyde Park, in Chicago, can maintain cheerful whitopias in the midst of diversity. All that’s needed is a wall of lies about “good schools” and “safe neighborhoods” that omit the salient and visible facts. It’s not the clusters of whiteness we need to worry about; it’s the economic desperation, marginalization, and segregation.

4 posted on 07/30/2021 6:58:10 PM PDT by nicollo (I said no!)
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I can imagine that even walking on a college campus with this book will subject the holder incredible abuse, threats, and the like.


6 posted on 07/31/2021 4:44:42 AM PDT by Fury
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In Chapter Three of Facing Reality, Murray reports that African Americans score a bit less than one standard deviation below European Americans on cognitive tests. With a note of hope, he reports that the gap steadily narrowed between 1970 and 1980. But he also asks us to notice that the gap has, from 1990 onwards, stubbornly refused to diminish further no matter what policy interventions have been brought to bear. Asian Americans, meanwhile, have been widening the gap over European Americans. In 2020, the Asian American advantage on math and reading tests was about 0.40 standard deviations above European Americans.

Match meet gasoline.

7 posted on 07/31/2021 4:46:51 AM PDT by Fury
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I read that book in 1994 or 1995. It was spellbinding. Seriously. He had all this data, and he explained it, how it was obtained. Provided correlating facts and data.
And he was totally respectful. No claims of “these are better”, or “the evil (insert color) ones caused the vast majority of today’s ills” like we hear from the racists and race-baiters of today.
Highly recommend The Bell Curve.


8 posted on 08/05/2021 8:06:19 PM PDT by Honest Nigerian
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