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1 posted on 07/09/2021 8:24:00 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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Missing from the list of "solutions" is career planning. You need to pick a good career. Ask people in that career if it's worth it. Ask them what kind of training is good to excel at the career and make them want to hire you after you get that training.


Do all of those things before going to a "school".

2 posted on 07/09/2021 8:27:56 AM PDT by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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“Stupid is supposed to hurt.” Lurker’s Granddad.

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3 posted on 07/09/2021 8:28:47 AM PDT by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is. )
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I know the feeling. My Masters Degree in Medieval Plumbing has yet to pay off.


5 posted on 07/09/2021 8:30:05 AM PDT by laweeks ( )
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Recent film program graduates of Columbia University who took out federal student loans had a median debt of $181,000.

In my freshman year at U of Chicago, I had a talented housemate who was far from wealthy. He transferred to USC FILM SCHOOL, graduated, went on to U of Chicago Law School, clerked on SCOTUS for Brennan and Souter (he is liberal, of course), and since then has been partner in high-powered law firms, president of a significant motion picture corporation, and law school instructor.

So, it works for some people.
7 posted on 07/09/2021 8:32:16 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (“At first you go bankrupt slowly, then all at once.” -- Hemingway)
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Some can barely pay the interest on their loans. Our colleges and universities have become institutions of indoctrination and indentured servitude.


8 posted on 07/09/2021 8:32:51 AM PDT by Spok (There are many more things that frighten us than can cause us harm.)
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What’s the first thing a graduate with a B.A. in Ethnic Studies says their first day on the job?

“Would you like to super size that order?”


11 posted on 07/09/2021 8:34:09 AM PDT by Signalman
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College students need to do their own due diligence. But a good part of the blame must be assigned to their lying advisors.

Consider an 18-year-old college kid. He likes movies. But more than that. He has an interest in how movies reflect society, and they shape society. So he meets with an advisor in the film department. It’s that advisor’s job to get students to take film classes. So he’ll flat-out lie to the kid. He’ll tell the kid about all the “opportunities” available to a person with a degree in film.

Next thing you know, the kid has a worthless degree, and is deeply in debt.

Is there a solution? Yes. Make colleges co-sign loans. Of course, that will never happen.


13 posted on 07/09/2021 8:36:01 AM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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Where the heck is someone with a master's degree in stagecraft, art, history, political science, photography, English, foreign language, culinary arts, etc., etc., etc., supposed to get a job that will pay the bills?

*************

The federal government. All that is needed to get a good paying, secure job is liberal political connections. No other qualifications necessary.

15 posted on 07/09/2021 8:37:49 AM PDT by Starboard
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Interestingly, the University of Pennsylvania is a school where you get actually useful college degrees. It's not a coincidence that one Donald John Trump graduated from that school and not some place like Harvard, Yale, Cornell or Columbia.
16 posted on 07/09/2021 8:38:24 AM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's Economic Cure)
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Any useless degrees, especially master’s degrees are Financially Hobbling for Life.

They should be labeled as IUD’s, aka Instant Unemployment Degrees!


19 posted on 07/09/2021 8:39:25 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (“Respond only to polite and intelligent posters! Who don’t insult you or us! Forget the others!”)
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What a racket. This needs to end.


20 posted on 07/09/2021 8:39:45 AM PDT by HerrBlucher (Vaccinate this! )
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I remember from back in the day it was revealed that SMU’s art school had endowments greater than all the rest combined.

I’m cynical enough to wonder about how much of the arts actually needs anything beyond what some community college can provide for a relative pittance.


21 posted on 07/09/2021 8:40:04 AM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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“Financially Hobbled for Life,” AKA Slavery.


25 posted on 07/09/2021 8:44:14 AM PDT by Noumenon (The Second Amendment exists primarily to deal with those who just won't take no for an answer. KTF)
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Old aphorism:”Never blame the booster for what the sucker does”

If you are so damn dumb as to sign up for these academic rip offs you get what you deserve.


28 posted on 07/09/2021 8:47:58 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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“Recent film program graduates of Columbia University who took out federal student loans had a median debt of $181,000.”

Here’s another plan:
1) At age 18 go to work for a strong and popular fast food organization such as McDonalds, ChickfilA, Panara Bread, or In and Out. Show up for work on time, perform well and in 6 months ask to go into the management training program.
2) As a trainee, live below your means, work hard, out perform your peers. Within 2 years you’ll be managing a store for a franchisee or the parent corporation.
3) Continue to save your money. Apply to buy a franchise. When offered one, do your homework, study the community and the location. Assess the potential for long term growth.
4) Assuming your due diligence checks out, pay cash for the franchise fee and borrow the money for the assets. Work your butt off for 3-5 years and pay off the debt while growing the business. Ask to buy another franchise.
5) Rinse and repeat. Continue living below your means and accumulating productive assets.

Over your working career you will earn money and accumulate more wealth than 99% of Columbia film graduates. The money you borrow, to buy physical assets (building, land, equipment) will produce real value, whereas for most the master’s degree from Columbia will produce nothing of value.

One of the wealthiest people I know, who happens to be an African American, went to work for McDonalds in high school at age 16. Today he owns 5 McDonalds franchises at age 55, has a wonderful family, and did it by having goals and working hard to achieve them. He does not have an Ivy League degree, nor did he incur debt from earning one. He is also better educated, and has more common sense, than most of the Ivy League grads I know.

Yes, one can still be successful in America, no matter the color of your skin, and without a college degree.


29 posted on 07/09/2021 8:49:17 AM PDT by Soul of the South (The past is gone and cannot be changed. Tomorrow can be a better day if we work on it.)
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By giving them a “Diploma” in nothing important they think they now have a brain as the Scarecrow did.


35 posted on 07/09/2021 8:54:06 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar ((Democrats have declared us to be THE OBSOLETE MAN in the Twilight Zone.))
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Make the university liable for unpaid student loans that were used at their institution.


37 posted on 07/09/2021 9:03:01 AM PDT by Tai_Chung
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An MBA from a high profile business college can pay off in different ways. If you are attending an in class school the contacts you make in an MBA program can be useful later on in your career. Professors encourage this form of networking.


38 posted on 07/09/2021 9:03:45 AM PDT by BluH2o
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Gee! I worked my way through medical school, cooked on a hot plate, slept on naked box springs, did without--never went into debt--also damn near starved as I put my wife through college and graduate school--and we're doing great today.

It's something called delayed gratification.

Those who borrowed, lived high on the hog, and struggled to pay off the debt afterward get no sympathy from me.

As I told my children: Going into debt is like taking the canoe out with the tide and coming back against it.

39 posted on 07/09/2021 9:04:21 AM PDT by Savage Beast (Western Civilisation is well worth fighting for! The wise and benevolent MUST win the fight!)
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It would be much cheaper to get a degree overseas. Many European colleges will let you finish in 3 years too.


40 posted on 07/09/2021 9:04:54 AM PDT by Tai_Chung
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