“Are EVs as ‘Green’ as They Appear”
No.
They are just green enough to convince a bunch of gullible idiots to invest a ton of money in them and their associated infrastructure which they then declare to be actually bad for the environment and demand that it all be torn out. It is all a ruse to waste time and money.
Those of us who actually know engineering pretty much had this sussed out a few years back.
The same people who believe the answer is “yes” are the ones who would both believe that climate science is “settled” and that anything which conflicts with their core beliefs is “misinformation”.
Three reasons consumers will not buy EVs: 1) Limited range 2) No all weather reliability 3) Enviormental disasters
Nothing we do to “reduce emissions” will have the slightest effect on the “climate”,
since China and India are operating many hundreds of coal-fired power plants and are going to build many more. “Climate” is world-wide.
“Our analysis suggests a modern lithium-ion battery has approximately 135,000 miles of range before it degrades to the point of becoming unusable.”\
https://www.carfax.com/blog/how-long-does-the-battery-last-in-an-electric-car
According to a survey conducted by the organization Plug In America, the battery pack in the Tesla Model S only loses about 5 percent of its capacity over the first 50,000 miles on the road, on average, and that rate slows down as additional miles are put on the odometer. Tesla reports that in its own controlled testing, the Model S batteries retained 80 percent of their range after running for a simulated 500,000 miles.
Odd that the article doesn’t mention the fuel used to generate the electricity to charge the cars. The the end of the article, there is this little PS: “To read more on this subject, including a section on photovoltaic solar power, we encourage you to download the full commentary, available below.”
This seems to suggest that the cars will be charged using solar-generated electricity. But that is a whole ‘nother can of worms as it only works during the daytime without clouds. You need HUGE batteries to store solar at night and today’s entire battery storage infrastructure in the USA would power the grid for less than a minute.
Nope.
The energy usage in producing *green energy* products is incredible.
“EV’s” largely appeal to people who #F___ingLoveScience. They only need propaganda.
I believe it has been said that conversion to pure EVs will require the electric grid to be increased in captivity some 7 fold ove4 what it is at present. That simply will not be allowed by the Watermelon Environmentalist.
EVs are a boondoggle, snake oil potables.
Hybrids make sense. They carry their generators with them and so naturally and effortlessly scale to demand where the grid does not.
EVs do not make sense.
“Shuttle service Tesloop announced their first Model 3 fleet vehicle crossed 200,000 miles and lost only 6% of its original range. Since then it crossed the 300,000 mile marker and it’s still going strong.”
https://evannex.com/blogs/news/how-long-will-my-tesla-battery-last
see page 13:
https://www.tesla.com/ns_videos/2019-tesla-impact-report.pdf
on page 15:
“Most batteries that Tesla recycles today are pre-consumer, coming to us through R&D and quality control. None of our scrapped lithium-ion batteries go to landfilling, and 100% are recycled. The small amount of post-consumer batteries that we receive are generated from our fleet of vehicles on the road, predominantly from taxi-like vehicles. Since we have only been producing Model S for approximately eight years, it will likely be some time before we start receiving back vehicle batteries in larger volumes.
All materials contained in a battery remain in their original form at end-of-life and the vast majority of these materials are then captured in the recycling process. Presently, only high-value elements are recycled and re-introduced into the supply chain.
However, as recycling technology improves, we strive to re-introduce more and more materials back into their original commodity markets. Over half of the materials in a battery cell are metals, which is great for sustainability given they are infinitely recyclable. The remaining materials are plastics, organics, and other difficult to re-use materials.”
They don’t ever appear green to anyone with an IQ over 80 ie nonDemocrats.
Yeah but the awesomeness the EV owners FEEL and sense of superiority over Neanderthal “IC” car owners far outweighs the CO2 issue. And it makes them less racis’ too. 😲😂🙌👏💰💰💰
There’s an idiot driving around Allen, TX in a Tesla with vanity plates that read “IMGREEN”
I have to laugh out loud at him every time i see that car.
Tgey suck ass. Screw electric cars
What was it that the Top Gear UK crew said? That one SUV will emit far fewer greenhouse gases over its lifetime than what is emitted by the mining of enough lithium for ONE Prius - and that’s not even 100% electric.
I would believe that. Lithium mining is FILTHY.
With all of this rip off of our money to the pagan god of Climate Change, let’s do a little math:
The total mass of Earth’s atmosphere is about 5.5 quadrillion tons.
Man has produced how many tons of CO2 over the industrial age and what percent of the earth’s atmospheric tonnage does that amount to?
This may be too conservative. However, we have produced only 0.00022% of ALL CO2 in the atmosphere- that’s it- and since natural CO2 is just .004% of the atmosphere- that means we’re only responsible for such a SMALL % of the total atmosphere that it’s not even significant in the slightest- there is simply NO way man can be responsible for global climate change- none!
‘Scientists’ should be ASHAMED of themselves for even suggesting man is responsible!
Our atmosphere is comprised of 6 quadrillion tons of molecules- 6 quadrillion folks! ALL natural and man made CO2 amounts to just 8 billion tons- That is NOTHING compared to the sheer volume of atmosphere- it practically doesn’t even register- it is such a small portion of our atmosphere that there is absolutely NO way such a small amount can capture near enough heat to raise our earths temps one iota- period!
Man-made carbon dioxide emissions throughout human history constitute less than 0.00022 percent of the total naturally emitted from the mantle of the earth during geological history.
Earth’s climates change all the time. CO2 spikes all the time. To try to blame climate change on 0.00022% of the atmosphere is ludicrous regardless of how old you might think the earth is. The fact remains the total amount of CO2 produced by man for the whole of the industrial age is just 0.00022% in relation to the total tonnage of atmosphere. How can 0.00022% of the atmosphere cause global climate change? How can just 0.00022% of our atmosphere capture enough escaping heat, then radiate a FRACTION of that heat back to earth to cause climate temps to rise? Note: I’m being generous because not all of the 0.00022% over the industrial age is still in the atmosphere.
Right now the CO2 levels are 415 parts per million. 415 parts per million is .0415% of the atmosphere. In other words, the atmosphere is 99.96% NOT carbon dioxide. Water vapor is a much more plentiful greenhouse gas. The problem is, the Leftnicks can’t spin a narrative about evil oil companies producing water vapor.
Working from home, instead of commuting every day, has done far more to reduce my automotive carbon emissions.