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To: GOPJ
I believe in fair and honest elections.

So do I. It is my sincerest hope that when the fraud is uncovered, that those persons who committed the fraud are prosecuted and punished to the fullest extent of the law.

I believe the person who won the Presidency according to the rules laid out in our Constitution is the winner.

So do I. The key here is "according to the rules laid out in our Constitution." State elections were certified, Electors met and voted, those votes were transmitted to Congress, and those votes were unsealed and counted, and the winner was certified by Congress and took the Oath of Office. If it later turns out that the entire process was corrupted by fraud, then the Constitution provides the means to correct the error.

I believe if Democrats cheated to put Biden into office and Trump received more votes (according to the way we count votes) that Biden must do the honorable thing and step down.

So do I. However, if and when he does, Harris will become President, not Trump.

I believe if we give a pass to democrats for cheating that the next round of voter fraud will be worse - there’s NOTHING in the Constitution about rewarding criminal behavior because it’s ‘easier’...

So do I. However, there's a whole lot of space between "giving a pass to Democrats for cheating" and "nullify the election and declare Trump the winner." And it is that space in-between the two extremes that we are debating. My views on the matter were covered above. Biden does the honorable thing and resigns, and the perpetrators of the massive fraud are identified, charged, tried, and convicted. And once we identify the specific mechanisms used to commit the election fraud, safeguards are put in place to reduce or eliminate the opportunity for committing similar fraud in future elections.

I believe rewarding crime brings about more crime, more voter fraud, and less respect for the Constitution. It s a threat to our freedom.

I agree. That is why we need to first concretely identify the specific fraud that was committed, determine who specifically committed that fraud, and punish the guilty. Just understand that having a court nullify the 2020 elections and hand the Presidency to Trump is not possible under our Constitution, and expecting otherwise is honoring the Constitution by ignoring the Constitution.

THERE IS NOTHING IN THE CONSTITUTION THAT SAYS IF A PERSON IS PLACED IN OFFICE BY MISTAKE OR BY FRAUD, THAT THEY GET TO STAY IN OFFICE.

THE CONSTITUTION SAYS THAT THERE IS ONLY ONE WAY TO REMOVE A SITTING PRESIDENT, AND THAT PROCESS IS EXPLICITLY DESCRIBED UNDER ARTICLE II SECTION 4.

99 posted on 05/21/2021 12:04:29 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Yo-Yo
So do I. However, if and when he does, Harris will become President, not Trump.

Okay, so Biden is removed for fraud, but Harris gets to be President?

Your logic meter must be busted.


122 posted on 05/21/2021 12:46:03 PM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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