Posted on 05/16/2021 6:06:36 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal
I kinda opened the dialogue with “If you are not vaccinated, please remember to wear a mask like the governor said”. All the vaxxed people who are still wearing the virtue signal were a little troubled by it. Might people think they are not vaxxed or worse yet, an anti-vaxxer who wears the mask to signal their anti-vaxxer status?
Liberals have diseased minds already, so it’s no wonder they are confused and conflicted.
Sadly, the way this ‘disease’ has been presented by TPTB, it’s impacting so-called conservatives as well.
With a 99+ percent of survival rate, why is this even a thing in the first place ???
The only thing I can think of is that the Globalists have called their draw and they believe now is the time to re-order everything.
I remember the ‘bird-flu’ panic in 2003/2004 in Asia. Total hysteria for nothing and they’ve been wearing masks since then.
Please find a dictionary and look up the meanings of “allude” and “elude”.
Perhaps the ‘anti-vaxxers’ should be labeled ‘anti-COVID vaxxers’...I suspect many posters here who oppose the gene therapy injection (or whatever) HAVE been vaccinated against smallpox, polio, and others...so they certainly are NOT ‘anti-vax’.
People in church should NOT covering the image of God...they should KNOW better.
I know.
Thank you.
Personally addressing the issue.
“Worked with” is your issue??
Are you kidding me?? Worked with????
Just tell me, how is someone going to discover new treatments even new things unless they WORK WITH it??
They did Work With it. Testing, experimenting. Testing isn’t ONLY about human testing or don’t you know that? Testing in a labs, includes working with it.
I can’t believe I have to walk this through like this.
Edison WORKED WITH and TESTED electricity to discover the light bulb!
Computer engineers WORKED WITH chips before putting them in your computer they were tested in various ways.
Someone WORKED WITH the Steam Engine before a single railroad track was laid.
Working with means discovery, research and test.
For years mRNA has been around and worked with in various ways.
In the video that was from 2017 the Moderna scientist said they tested on something around 30 volunteers for a Flu virus. GO BACK AND WATCH AGAIN!
mRNA it not new. Not only is it part of your body, but research has been on going for years.
Perhaps you think mRNA is only about Covid?
R&D has been and still is continuing to use mRNA with treating HIV, Cancer, all types of contagious viruses.
Since we’ve been assured that the Covid “experimental” shots are totally safe and are a cure against Covid, then why would those who got the experimental shots be concerned about anyone not getting the shots? Those who got the shots are now “totally safe and cured” from Covid so what’s the issue other than those dying from getting the shots.
They politicized a cold to massively cheat their way into power.
Polio took close to 40 years. It’s convenient for your argument to ignore the numerous trials that produced negative results but the record is clear. I hope the Covid serum becomes a true vaccine but your argument that it meets the same standard as genuine vaccines doesn’t hold water. Even the FDA considers it experimental.
Crack takes just 3 minutes to smoke.
40 years......LMAO!!
Isolation and development of a vaccine are two different things.
One cannot develop a vaccine for a virus unless they can isolate said virus.
AFTER isolation, Polio was developed and distributed within 3 years.
Willful ignorance is pitiful to see. In case you should feel like having an adult discussion someday: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3782271/
Ok so you took the time and effort to get that link with the information........so I took the time to read and study it.
Thank you for that.
I understand what you’re argument is. In fact, many died from “bad” Polio vaccines prior to 1953/54.
What I’m saying, is that from discovery——trials——vaccinating the population, I’m not including all of the history with Polio and attempts to vaccinate people (with a live virus) but I’m focusing on the Vaccine by Salk that actually worked and was implemented.
Yes, you are correct there is a long and even very ugly history of Polio and the research for a cure or vaccine.
But when Salk isolated the virus, found 3 groups made the vaccine, and began administering the vaccine it was no where near 10 years.
This from what you sent me:
“ The discovery that the various antigenic strains of PVs could be grouped into three distinct viral types and the propagation of the PV in vitro led to the development of the vaccines against poliomyelitis: the formalin-inactivated vaccine (IPV) by Jonas Salk (1953) and the live-attenuated vaccines (OPV) by Albert Sabin (1956)[12].
Go to:
IPV
The first inactivated polio vaccine (IPV) was produced by Salk using virus grown on monkey kidney cells and inactivated with formalin. In 1954, the inactivated vaccine was tested in a placebo-controlled trial, which enrolled 1.6 million children in Canada, Finland and the United States[13]. In April 1955, Salk’s vaccine was adopted throughout the United States. The incidence of paralytic poliomyelitis in the United States decreased from 13.9 cases per 100 000 in 1954 to 0.8 cases per 100 000 in 1961[14]. Some disadvantages of the Salk vaccine in that time were the decrease of the titres of the circulating antibody within a few years of vaccination, the further circulation of wild PV and its implications in outbreaks, and the large number of monkeys (about 1500) needed to be sacrificed to produce every 1 million inactivated doses. The strains of virus used in the vaccine were Mahoney (type l), MEF-I (type 2) and Saukett (type 3). Shortly after the licensing of Salk vaccine, the failure of inactivation of vaccine virus at Cutter Laboratories, Berkeley, was followed by 260 cases of poliomyelitis with PV type 1 and 10 deaths. The supposition was that the virus was resistant to inactivation by formaldehyde because it contained more foreign proteins than optimal or that the virus may have clumped. A second filtration step was introduced in the production process in order to remove aggregates that may have developed during treatment and safety tests were improved. The use of the highly virulent Mahoney strain in vaccine production has been controversial and after the Cutter incident, even more so.”
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The article doesn’t mention the first trials for Polio which took place only in the U.S. and had 1,900 children enrolled. I’m not sure why. But that rial was also a success.
Also, the approval for the Polio vaccine came from a sort of peer review out of the University of Michigan. Not a Government entity. Perhaps that’s why is was quicker. LOL
mRNA has been around for a while research of mRNA ramped up in 2015.
The 10 years of vaccine development isn’t a rule, or Law or even policy, a few vaccines happen to take around 10 years, but I think the need outweighs milking the cash cow for research and getting a vaccine out quickly and effectively like Polio was.
30,000 people volunteered and help test the Pfizer vaccine for Covid-19.
More than tested the Polio vaccine in the U.S.
If it works, why hold on to it?
I do get your point however.
Thank you for posting the information.
Have a great rest of the day.
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